Comments for Death Threats and Arrests for Facebook Ramadan Fast Break Protesters at http://www.moroccoboard.com , comment 1 to 34 out of 20 comments http://www.moroccoboard.com Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:27:34 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.moroccoboard.com/news/34-news-release/664-death-threats-and-arrests-for-facebook-ramadan-fast-break-protesters#comment-4019 look peo... those people are not against the government they are against our culture our religion the government is doing it's job to protect our constitution period - morocain Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:55:26 +0100 http://www.moroccoboard.com/news/34-news-release/664-death-threats-and-arrests-for-facebook-ramadan-fast-break-protesters#comment-3084 [i][b]Apparently Rushdy Salman generated a lot of little clowns even within so-called Muslim countries !!! What is outrageously funny is the aberration of national journalists who forget to repport the perpetual flagrante delicto and the government Dayoutisme towards the spread of pedophilia and all kinds of spirits production trivialization in addition to nationwide distribution and consumption with the full blessing of the believers commander.[/b][/i] - Mohammad Ibn Mohammad Wed, 23 Sep 2009 08:25:27 +0100 http://www.moroccoboard.com/news/34-news-release/664-death-threats-and-arrests-for-facebook-ramadan-fast-break-protesters#comment-3083 Apparently Rushdy Salman generated a lot of little clowns even within so-called Muslim countries !!! What is outrageously funny is the aberration of national journalists who forget to repport the perpetual flagrante delicto and the government Dayoutisme towards the spread of pedophilia and all kinds of spirits production trivialization in addition to nationwide distribution and consumption with the full blessing of the believers commander. - Mohammad Ibn Mohammad Wed, 23 Sep 2009 08:23:41 +0100 http://www.moroccoboard.com/news/34-news-release/664-death-threats-and-arrests-for-facebook-ramadan-fast-break-protesters#comment-3077 I cannot believe that the simple thing of eating can be misconstrued as evil and against the law... Fasting is ok and even if it is a requirement for the religion of islam it should be an individual personal experience and not made out to be the rule of all people to follow or else you will suffer. Devout muslims are quick to turn their moralizing heads in order to punish anyone who does not follow the law.... it's eating ... it is not pissing on public walls which many do, leaving a stench of urine that make people disguisted....it is not verbally harassing women in public as many do... it is not stealing or lying as many do more in Ramadhan... it is not kissing in public or eloping in public..... it is eating...eating.. drinking water.... one of the basic necessacity YET this is an outrage... Devout muslim should fast for themselves and leave the others alone in their daily lives instead of imposing their ideas on others.... - Zaki Wed, 23 Sep 2009 03:09:13 +0100 http://www.moroccoboard.com/news/34-news-release/664-death-threats-and-arrests-for-facebook-ramadan-fast-break-protesters#comment-3064 Ash khasek a al-ariane, khaseni khatem a moulay...... As if Moroccans has everything such as equal access to helath care, education, jobs, housing.....etc. The only thing left was to be able to eat in public during Ramadan!!! Not only that those 10 were outnumbered by police but also outnumbered by "journalists" coming to cover this "theatrical" nonsense. They are lucky that Police came not to stop them from eating in public but to protect them from what others Moroccans would have done to them. What the police should do to those morons is to send them a bill for the cost of mobilising that many cops to come to protect them. Now they are complaining that they are recieving threats. Go get a private security company to get you body guards and cough up the money to pay for it. - Moroccan Tue, 22 Sep 2009 06:38:53 +0100 http://www.moroccoboard.com/news/34-news-release/664-death-threats-and-arrests-for-facebook-ramadan-fast-break-protesters#comment-3047 Ramadan is a month of hypocrisy. If people want to eat they should, if eating establishments are willing to serve them. And why not/ This idea that is a Muslim observance is a requirement is nonsense. Why not then have a theocracy and run over all the civil laws and institute the charia laws. I considered myself a Muslim (culturally) but I have never fasted. I remember fasting when I was 15- 16, out of fear and inability of procure food, when I got myself a room of my own (because my older brother went to study at the university of Rabat) then I was able to take food there and eat it. I have not fasted since then (ever). Of course sometimes I wake up late and a have only a drink of water or something... I really take the religion as an individual matter...I know that people are against this. I can tell you that one day in 1982 I was able to eat lunch with some Americans at the Balima restaurant during Ramadan, I passed for a Lebanese Christian.. The servers did not ask me for an identity it was the best meal I have had that month... because of low turn out.. the cook must have taken care of preparing the food with extra culinary expertise.... Now I am in the US... and I try to avoid visiting Morocco during this holy hypocritical month... I think they should change the law...to allow anyone who want to eat to do so without harm or derision....Allah gharoufen Rahim... - Zaki Mon, 21 Sep 2009 03:49:38 +0100 http://www.moroccoboard.com/news/34-news-release/664-death-threats-and-arrests-for-facebook-ramadan-fast-break-protesters#comment-3044 i think morocco a had became a land of siba ,this siba is different than the one of 150 years ago,todays siba is created by moroccans who imports large quentity of foriegn idiologies to morocco like secularism ,zionesm,athiesm,christianity,communism,etc... , many question sould be asked? is morocco a moslim country ? is morocco a sovereign nation ? doese morocco have laws and constitution ? why doese he allowed these foriegn agents to operate freely unlike many other countries? this is an example of 20th and 21th century siba in morocco, - salim aa Sun, 20 Sep 2009 19:34:52 +0100 http://www.moroccoboard.com/news/34-news-release/664-death-threats-and-arrests-for-facebook-ramadan-fast-break-protesters#comment-3038 المادة (222) في مجموعة القانون الجنائي تنص على أن كل من عرف باعتناقه الدين الإسلامي وجاهر بالإفطار في رمضان في مكان عمومي دون عذر شرعي، يُعاقب بالحبس من شهر إلى ستة أشهر ودفع غرامة، لكنها تعفي الأقليات المغربية من غير المسلمين، مثل اليهود والأجانب غير المسلمين من الحظر بالمجاهرة بالإفطار أثناء رمضان - ossama Sun, 20 Sep 2009 03:27:27 +0100 http://www.moroccoboard.com/news/34-news-release/664-death-threats-and-arrests-for-facebook-ramadan-fast-break-protesters#comment-3036 The non-fasters are wrong, they misculculated their deeds. Yet, we must be too hard on them. Speak to them and try to convince them that what they've done is opposite to the general Moroccan and religious premises. There are people who behaved worse that them and noone ever reacted so harshly to them. Reprimanding is easy, tolerating is hard. Let's be wise. - salma Sun, 20 Sep 2009 03:05:16 +0100 http://www.moroccoboard.com/news/34-news-release/664-death-threats-and-arrests-for-facebook-ramadan-fast-break-protesters#comment-3017 Where are "civil liberties" when in most states in the US drinking on the street is illegal. Where are "civil liberties" when many states and cities still enforce the "blue laws" (ban on sale of alcohol on sundays)?? I do not fast (I am no longer a believer) but I oppose these groups (mostly issued from the Moroccan aristocracy who has the population by its neck) who are not promoting "individual liberties" or challenging the system but rather they are rubbing it in the face of the poor Moroccan cha3b. The authorities should do their best to protect these groups (as misguided as they might be) from mobs but they should also arrest them for breaking the law. So what if few Spanish newspaper report the issue? Let them report. Morocco is a sovereign nation and Moroccans should not apologize for these laws that have a clear support among the population. It is democracy at work. Ireland only legalized divorce after 3 referendums in 1991. - Casawi Sat, 19 Sep 2009 05:43:28 +0100 http://www.moroccoboard.com/news/34-news-release/664-death-threats-and-arrests-for-facebook-ramadan-fast-break-protesters#comment-3016 I can't agree any more, why Moroccan women goes to Morocco in Ramadan and decide to eat in public, out of respect and wants people to side with her. That is wrong, you don't have to fast but at least respect the rest of the population. People who are addicted and in Ramadan they do fast. This story shouldn't be published to begin with. This is disrespectful to the Moroccan community and to all the Moroccan who believe in islam. - wss Sat, 19 Sep 2009 05:08:40 +0100 http://www.moroccoboard.com/news/34-news-release/664-death-threats-and-arrests-for-facebook-ramadan-fast-break-protesters#comment-3014 I wonder if anyone could tell me what the word "Ramadan" literally means and why that name was given to a month. Can you tell me in what season Ramadan used to be? Because as you may know, though I doubt it, that the calendar in the beginning of Islam was static and wasn't solely lunar? Now, next question: Did fasting exist before Islam (a pagan rite) or did it first appear with Islam? If yes, when? I guess that before talking about anything, we should first agree on the basic facts. Any talk without those basics in mind is just a waste of time and can even be dangerous. - Marjane Sat, 19 Sep 2009 04:09:33 +0100 http://www.moroccoboard.com/news/34-news-release/664-death-threats-and-arrests-for-facebook-ramadan-fast-break-protesters#comment-3010 I respect all of your personal opinions on fasting. I understand that you like the environment in Morocco when everyone is fasting and it's easier on everyone when it's that way. But who said it was supposed to be easy? Isn't part of the discipline of Ramadan seeing other people eat? If any of you have fasted in America you should realize how insignificant a few non-observing Muslims eating in public is. You should feel like a stronger Muslim when you see other people eat and can resist the temptation, not like a weaker nation. The fact is that the government of Morocco agreed to sign the International Declaration of Human Rights which respects the freedom of religion. Being able to eat publicly during a fast is a very basic freedom of religion. It is not inflicting pain on anyone. If you want to support a country that restricts basic human rights, you should demand that Morrocco appeal it's signature on the UDHR. Under international law these protesters have done nothing wrong - actually, under Moroccan law they have done nothing wrong, because they were arrested before they even broke the fast. They weren't going to break the fast at the train stop that they were harassed and arbitrarily arrested at, they were going to go to a secluded area in the woods. The protesters were trying to be respectful. They deserve some respect in return. The comments about the protesters are absolutely disgusting. - Michelle Dandane Sat, 19 Sep 2009 02:46:42 +0100 http://www.moroccoboard.com/news/34-news-release/664-death-threats-and-arrests-for-facebook-ramadan-fast-break-protesters#comment-3009 Many Moroccans abroad and in Morocco complain about the lack of democracy, tolerance and religious freedom towards them. Unfortunately when it comes to the other side they don't get it. They assume that THEY are the only ones who understand EVERYTHING about religion and leave no room for a healthy and democratic debate about any question that might be raised by the other side (moslem or non moslem.) We can't live in a frozen time and ignore most, if not all, the social, political and scientific progress that have been made throughout centuries because any type of questioning or change is distabilizing. That only shows insecurities about own faith. Time has come for all of us to examine ourselves and deal with our contradictions if we want to built a true democratic country that embraces ALL of its citizens and their views and gives the means to ALL to live in peace, harmony, and MUTAL respect. Dictatorships (political or religious) are a thing of the past and those still functioning now don't have a long time to go because there is no force anymore that can stop universal education and true democracy. So let us stop attacking people who don't have the same interpretation of the coran as us, or the same beliefs. Pushing them back to their homes to let us live in the Myth of a 95%-of-the-population-is-moslem, is not a serious solution. Freedom of religion, respect and tolerance go TWO ways and they are practiced peacefully in several muslim countries besides Tunisia. All we have to do is open up our mind and educate ourselves. True faith doesn't come with a stick, prison or threats and those who use these types of terror only demonstrate a level of intolerance that will only take us back to religious totalitarianism. True faith comes with LOVE, COMPASSION, and PEACE. We urgently need to stop the physical and verbal abuse and attacks (by the police or by religious extremists) if we want other people to respect us in return. Let us believe what we want and let others do the same and finally LET ALLAH BE THE ULTIMATE JUDGE OF ALL OF US. Mabrouk Al 3id wa essalamou 3ala al jami3! - Cheers to MALI! Sat, 19 Sep 2009 02:42:47 +0100 http://www.moroccoboard.com/news/34-news-release/664-death-threats-and-arrests-for-facebook-ramadan-fast-break-protesters#comment-3007 I'm sure thee europeans are taking a notice of this but not the issue of hijab in Europe where a Muslim women is not allowed to cover her head if she wishes to. The bottom line here is these Europeans influence are affecting the way of life in Morocco and the government needs to wake up. All these missionaries (christian and none christian) need to be kicked out of Morocco. They are creating serious problem in Morocco and I know that Morocco knows this is a problem but instead they try to please and appease EU. Stop...Stop...Stop these ridiculous politics, it is causing us destruction to our culture. Call on Moroccan government to kick these missionaries out of Morocco and problem i solved... Islam is not accepted in Europe whey should Christianity be accepted in Morocco and why Morocco is quiet about this. Does this government work? - Rush Sat, 19 Sep 2009 01:47:07 +0100 http://www.moroccoboard.com/news/34-news-release/664-death-threats-and-arrests-for-facebook-ramadan-fast-break-protesters#comment-3003 Morocco has a constitution and this constitution should be respected. If you want to eat in public during Ramadan, first you need to change the constitution otherwise the police will make respect the law. As simple as that. - Krimo Fri, 18 Sep 2009 21:16:12 +0100 http://www.moroccoboard.com/news/34-news-release/664-death-threats-and-arrests-for-facebook-ramadan-fast-break-protesters#comment-3001 I have never heard that there is a law for non-fasting during ramadan. If there is one, then why there isn't one for wearing min skirts and tight clothes out in public. those are against islam too. the police should not interfere in this matter. fast or not fast is between god and the individual. those individuals should do whatever they want,but not in public and should be sensitive to other fellow moroccans who are braving the hot weather during this wonderful month. I live here in usa,and during that time of the month when i cannot fast. i do not eat out in public,especially in area where muslims gather or work( such as schools and food courts). - flowerofmorocco Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:36:09 +0100 http://www.moroccoboard.com/news/34-news-release/664-death-threats-and-arrests-for-facebook-ramadan-fast-break-protesters#comment-2998 Just wondering how would you make Morocco a better place by not fasting or fasting?????? you are just making unnecessary brouhaha. Go ahead do not fast who is stopping you??? One more thing you guys were lucky the police was there for you , otherwise only God knows what would have happened to you. I am sorry ,instead of making a point you insulted the Moroccan People and made many enemies.For God sake even non Muslim tourists respect the Moroccan religion and traditions while in Morocco. - nour Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:00:51 +0100 http://www.moroccoboard.com/news/34-news-release/664-death-threats-and-arrests-for-facebook-ramadan-fast-break-protesters#comment-2996 as we know there are many islamophopics within us "Moroccans" and many of them want to convert Morocco to a Non Muslim western state where adultery, pornography, nudity, lesbianism,homosexuality and all kinds of sins are permitted in public. guess what?! it will never happend not unless its on the dead bodies of the 40 millions Muslim Moroccans that live in it. as we know now that we with spread of the internet the enemies of Morocco and especially the anti Islam mongers are using this tool day and night to decompose the very fundamentals of the Moroccan nation.lets not forget that there are Zionists, atheists,non Muslims that encourage the split of Moroccans to create chaos. i also noticed that these enemies they are targeting the so called underpowered groups in Morocco like the "amazigh" brainwash them that Islam and Muslims are their real enemies. when in fact all muslims are brothers regadless of origin or ethnic background. they are using race and religion to make moroccan hate each others.i say to these people islam is much bigger and much stronger than what u think. and if you want to eat during ramadan you should all start looking for another country where these low actions are permitted in broad daylight... Morocco is a Muslim conservative state and will always be until god decides to end this world. if you think we are taking our religion and dignity lightly. think again. disrespecting 40 million Muslims in broad daylight wont get you anything but prison time and some manner lessons until you get it or move out of the country!.when gays lesbians atheists and zionists become majority in Morocco then u can have your daily practices in public until then if i was you i would consider immigrating somewhere else. - yassir1 Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:52:48 +0100 http://www.moroccoboard.com/news/34-news-release/664-death-threats-and-arrests-for-facebook-ramadan-fast-break-protesters#comment-2986 It could be that the woman organizing this circus just want to make a name for herself...Oh yes, Islam has always been the topic of choice for those who want to sell their cartoons or fiction novels. Maybe she dreams of becoming a guest on TV shows...or write a book and make money out it in the west...or even better find away to get an exit to a place where there is no Ramadan...But I suspect her case is weak, because being flamboyant against Islam has become a boring subject. As far as I am concerned, she can even sit facing the mosque and eat her own boots, I just find her "cause" unsubstantial for the development of the country. Why wouldn't she create an organization to defend the dignity of the zombie children sniffing glue throughout Morocco, or people selling their blood in front of emergency hospitals. Those are the real that need to be addressed. This is like a woman who is buried in mud to the neck, and all what she worries about is her manicure. Awdii..The damn french frogs mutilated the Moroccan ID and perceptions. - Forward Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:06:34 +0100