Activists Beaten For Protesting King's Oversized Budget
- NABIL ARRACH, Ph.D,
- 11/21/12
On Nov. 18, 2012, members of February 20 Movement rallied in Rabat protesting against the 2013 Royal expenditures budget, recently introduced by Finance Minister Nizar Baraka. The protest was highlighted by the presence of Khadija Ryadi, head of the MoroccanAssociation for Human Rights (AMDH), and her associate Abdelhamid Amine.
The protest was dispersed and activists stated that security officers have caused injuries to many protesters.
Although the parliament endorsement is required for the approval of government budgets, the Royal expenditures budget has never been subject to any revision within the parliament.
On Tuesday Nov. 20, the Royal expenditures budget was briefly presented by Najib Boulif, Minister Delegate for general affairs and good governance, before the Finance Committee at the House of Representatives. According to the local press[1], the presentation was marked by poor attendance; only eight deputies were present, but remain mostly silent.
Is the palace’s budget irrelevant or a “Red Line” the parliament cannot cross?
The 2013 budget for Royal expenditures is 2,58 billion Dirhams ($298 Million), approximately 2.5 higher than the budget of the Elysee Palace (France). The Moroccan Royal family costs Moroccans 4 times more than the British Royal family[2]; and 30 Times more than the Spanish Royal Family, whose budget does not exceed $10.8 million per year[3]. This comparison does not take into consideration the growth and revenues of each country. For example, Morocco’s 2013 expected annual revenues don’t exceed $32 billion[4], which is low compared to the $384 billion revenues in Spain, $835 billion in the UK, and $1 trillion in France[5]. If we add the revenues of each country into the equation, the rate of Moroccan Royal Expenditures becomes overwhelming compared to the rest of European monarchies. Morocco has a very small economy, but pays the Royal expenditures at a much higher rate than any European country. Despite the high Royal Expenditures, the Moroccan Royal family is actively engaged in business, with a strong presence in the Moroccan food industry, banking, real states, and Phosphate export etc. King Mohamed VI was ranked No7 richest Monarch on earth with $2.5 billion in revenues. He is the only one among the 10 richest monarchs to increase wealth in 2012[6]. In contrast, Morocco is ranked 150 in GDP per capita[7],[8], among countries with the worst standard living in the world. Morocco is also ranked 131 in human development, and known for high illiteracy rate, poverty, and high unemployment rate.
[1]http://lakome.com
[2]http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2006/06/28/queen-wed.html
[3]http://politica.elpais.com/politica/2011/12/28/actualidad/1325105881_885673.html
[4]http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-24/morocco-sets-out-2013-budget-targeting-deficit-of-4-8-.html
[5]The numbers reflect 2010 annuals revenues, http://www.oecd.org/
[6]http://www.forbes.com/2009/06/17/monarchs-wealth-scandal-business-billionaires-richest-royals.html
[7]https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/mo.html
[8]GDP per capita is GDP on a purchasing power parity basis divided by population
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#1
RE: Activists Beaten For Protesting King's Oversized Budget —
2012-11-21 11:51
Now we are talking instead of wasting you saliva on some kid heading a think tank.
This is what I have been barking about for long time. The Moroccan taxpayer pays for the incessant PR that the king enjoys.
When he inaugurates an orphanage, the tax payer incurs the expenses that are higher than the orphanage itself, when the tax payer borrows 300 million Euro to build a road from the autocrats of the middle east, who gets credit and the fanfare of placing the first cornerstone? our dear king of course.
Worst is we are not only paying for the king but for the entire royal family and even worse, Morocco is one of the poorest country in the planet and we have kings and princesses who simply are out of touch with the population.
I simply cannot understand that a 2.5 billion dollar king sleeps at night when the majority of his subjects cannot afford un demi kilo de viande.
If you don't believe me, here it is, what are going to say to this dude who never could afford a piece of meat?
We need to change our motto to
AL MALIK, ALLAH, AL MALIK INSTEAD OF ALLAH AL WATAN AL MALIK
This is what I have been barking about for long time. The Moroccan taxpayer pays for the incessant PR that the king enjoys.
When he inaugurates an orphanage, the tax payer incurs the expenses that are higher than the orphanage itself, when the tax payer borrows 300 million Euro to build a road from the autocrats of the middle east, who gets credit and the fanfare of placing the first cornerstone? our dear king of course.
Worst is we are not only paying for the king but for the entire royal family and even worse, Morocco is one of the poorest country in the planet and we have kings and princesses who simply are out of touch with the population.
I simply cannot understand that a 2.5 billion dollar king sleeps at night when the majority of his subjects cannot afford un demi kilo de viande.
If you don't believe me, here it is, what are going to say to this dude who never could afford a piece of meat?
We need to change our motto to
AL MALIK, ALLAH, AL MALIK INSTEAD OF ALLAH AL WATAN AL MALIK
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#2
RE: Activists Beaten For Protesting King's Oversized Budget —
2012-11-21 16:01
Is not the king six billion dollar kid?
It is my crying mantra, why do why the Moroccans in the streets of Marrakech and Rabat and in the streets up and down the country accept such leachers?
A Is it because of the strong secret police?
B Is it because the people's representatives are eunuchs?
C Is it because we the ordinary folks deserve and enjoy Sadomasochism from having bowed-to Royals?
And is it not a misnomer to say Minister Delegate for general affairs and good governance?
The oversized budget matches the king's ego. Never mind not many kings remain in Arab world, soon there will be none.
It is my crying mantra, why do why the Moroccans in the streets of Marrakech and Rabat and in the streets up and down the country accept such leachers?
A Is it because of the strong secret police?
B Is it because the people's representatives are eunuchs?
C Is it because we the ordinary folks deserve and enjoy Sadomasochism from having bowed-to Royals?
And is it not a misnomer to say Minister Delegate for general affairs and good governance?
The oversized budget matches the king's ego. Never mind not many kings remain in Arab world, soon there will be none.
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#3
whare are the comments? —
2012-11-22 02:27
Dear friends. You see this is the main criticism I have been putting in this forum. To me if I were Moroccan, this is the key issue that needs clarification, as Morocco's future depends. I am not writing this out of some malicious satisfaction. As an Algerian truly concerned about the future of the Maghreb, I find these Moroccans who dare to point towards THE ISSUE immensely courageous, they deserve respect, I wish they were Algerians. But in this forum, you can spot the "malaise", do not tell me only Morcelli has something to say about this, I am convinced all of you know this is the key issue, but all of you are scared to death to utter a word about it. For those of you who live in the West, this attitude cannot be understood, compare how much you are cowards and how much theses Moroccans are courageous.
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#4
I feel for the working class —
2012-11-22 07:25
I am not gonna beat about the bush in this issue which I have thought about long and hard.
I asked myself: will I be able to look the cleaners, the cooks, the gardners and all the other highly educated, semi-educated or uneducated staff who work in all the palaces and tell them in their face you are fired?
My answer is no.
Other monarchies, especially in Europe, engage in creative accounting. Their civil lists don't include everything to the last dollar. Their security is paid for from the interior ministry's budget. Their official travels are paid for from the ministry of foreign affairs' budget and so on and so forth
And before you tell me that the king costs the taxpayers a lot. What's the alternarive? A king on horseback like his ancestors.
People used to criticize the late king Hassan II because he never went to the Rif and other far-flung places of his poor kingdom. Critics said he was aloof.
Now that we have a king who basically cares and goes and inspects in person even the smallest and meaningless project in the kingdom, people are complaining.
Make your mind up! Do you want an active king or lazy so and so who stays in his large palaces, play golf and ride his arab horses.
I asked myself: will I be able to look the cleaners, the cooks, the gardners and all the other highly educated, semi-educated or uneducated staff who work in all the palaces and tell them in their face you are fired?
My answer is no.
Other monarchies, especially in Europe, engage in creative accounting. Their civil lists don't include everything to the last dollar. Their security is paid for from the interior ministry's budget. Their official travels are paid for from the ministry of foreign affairs' budget and so on and so forth
And before you tell me that the king costs the taxpayers a lot. What's the alternarive? A king on horseback like his ancestors.
People used to criticize the late king Hassan II because he never went to the Rif and other far-flung places of his poor kingdom. Critics said he was aloof.
Now that we have a king who basically cares and goes and inspects in person even the smallest and meaningless project in the kingdom, people are complaining.
Make your mind up! Do you want an active king or lazy so and so who stays in his large palaces, play golf and ride his arab horses.
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#6
Mr —
2012-11-23 08:48
I agree with Morcelli. In the last visit of the king to Errachidia, the whole administration was shut down for 2 months.
You cannot get any document signed because all officials were busy preparing for the king's visit. The amount of Money lost is not included in 2.58B.
How can you do business in an environment like this. In some cases the amount of money lost during inauguration service is greater than the project cost.
You cannot get any document signed because all officials were busy preparing for the king's visit. The amount of Money lost is not included in 2.58B.
How can you do business in an environment like this. In some cases the amount of money lost during inauguration service is greater than the project cost.
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#7
Mr —
2012-11-23 09:06
To weld leblad: No one is asking the king to stop making these visits. In the absence of accountability, king's visits are very important. But and this is a big but: why shutdown the whole city for weeks? why does the king need so many people to travel with him?
Perhaps we should split the administration and remove any business responsibilitie s from the ministry of interior. This way security can be provided without a loss of business.
Perhaps we should split the administration and remove any business responsibilitie s from the ministry of interior. This way security can be provided without a loss of business.
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#8
RE: Activists Beaten For Protesting King's Oversized Budget —
2012-11-23 12:22
The King understands that a 50% illiterate population pays a lot of attention to inaugurations and placing cornerstones, they don't look at the numbers, the cost in order for the king and the royal family to go from one place to the other, They don't understand what's involved, they don't even know that they are the one paying for the king's budget.
They see the king as a good man who cares about his subjects to the point that he visits villages that no one ever heard of.
The king and his entourage rely on the ignorance of the people to keep looting the Moroccan taxpayer's resources.
The King's last visit to the middle east was paid for by the taxpayer and that's something I do not see a problem with, but when the taxpayer pays the millions for the throne fest all over the world in every single embassy, that's abuse of power and taking advantage of the Moroccan subjects.
Hassan II was an autocrat and a dictator, I don't understand why his son keeps the tradition of looting. If M6 is the king of the poor, why take advantage of the people that he is supposed to care for?
As I said time and again, I am a monarchist, but a parliamentary monarchy
not an authoritarian one. The king needs to understand that he cannot sustain this sort of rule, it's time for him to start thinking about gradually passing the baton to those we elect and can still be the king.
I know that there is a problem with my suggestion, If we go to the ballot box, I am sure that those who think that Shariaa is the solution will take over. We have al adl wal ihsan led by a dieing old dude just waiting for an opportunity, we have a PJD who are sneaking their backwardness on the people as we speak, Rami anyone?, and we have few liberals who are lost in the midst.
The only good thing is we had plenty of rain and this year and they are not going to blame it on the lack of it.
They see the king as a good man who cares about his subjects to the point that he visits villages that no one ever heard of.
The king and his entourage rely on the ignorance of the people to keep looting the Moroccan taxpayer's resources.
The King's last visit to the middle east was paid for by the taxpayer and that's something I do not see a problem with, but when the taxpayer pays the millions for the throne fest all over the world in every single embassy, that's abuse of power and taking advantage of the Moroccan subjects.
Hassan II was an autocrat and a dictator, I don't understand why his son keeps the tradition of looting. If M6 is the king of the poor, why take advantage of the people that he is supposed to care for?
As I said time and again, I am a monarchist, but a parliamentary monarchy
not an authoritarian one. The king needs to understand that he cannot sustain this sort of rule, it's time for him to start thinking about gradually passing the baton to those we elect and can still be the king.
I know that there is a problem with my suggestion, If we go to the ballot box, I am sure that those who think that Shariaa is the solution will take over. We have al adl wal ihsan led by a dieing old dude just waiting for an opportunity, we have a PJD who are sneaking their backwardness on the people as we speak, Rami anyone?, and we have few liberals who are lost in the midst.
The only good thing is we had plenty of rain and this year and they are not going to blame it on the lack of it.
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#9
RE: Activists Beaten For Protesting King's Oversized Budget —
2012-11-23 17:55
The wealth of Moroccan family is certainly and should be an issue of debate and concern, but the article does not draw the line between the King's own wealth and the monarchy expenses, I'd expect more from a guy who follows his name by a PhD, nor does the article give any details about the nature of those "royal expenses".
The article that was published years ago (years before the Arab Spring) in telquel, gives ample details about those expenses and rectifies a little bit the picture, it also points to another issue even more important, the public institutions that are directly under the management of the king and do not respond to any public authority, this needs to be rectified, both in practice and in bookkeeping.
And yes the article is dead wrong about the most important figure, it presents $2.5 billions in revenues??? does the author mean estimated wealth? does the author know the difference? I don't know? he is very loose with numbers, I've seen his articles "covering" the referendum on the constitution, and I wasn't impressed...
Let's not forget that the king is not the richest man in Morocco, that would be Chaabi, maybe followed by Othman Ben Jelloun, which shows two new trends in Moroccan economy, higher inequality, and less Royal involvement in business, allowing for other families to surpass the Royal family...
The wealth of Royal family was huge at the time of Hassan II and it increased at a much lower rate than the wealth of other big families... most of whom made their profits working in public projects or benefiting from de facto monopolies...
Again the wealth of the Royal family should be a topic of concern, just like in Spain, the wealth of Juan Carlos is a topic of discomfort, and the wealth of Queen Elisabeth, is in England, but we need to address the the two issues separately, I'd rather focus on the king's cost to the taxpayer... and the limits of his involvement in the public life...
Again, a PhD should refrain from expressions like "King Mohamed VI was ranked No7 richest Monarch on earth with $2.5 billion in revenues", in addition to playing into the ignorance of the less informed readers who don't know how many monarchs there are out there "on earth", it presents them with a false figure... 5 to 6 times the true value... and that's sad...
The article that was published years ago (years before the Arab Spring) in telquel, gives ample details about those expenses and rectifies a little bit the picture, it also points to another issue even more important, the public institutions that are directly under the management of the king and do not respond to any public authority, this needs to be rectified, both in practice and in bookkeeping.
And yes the article is dead wrong about the most important figure, it presents $2.5 billions in revenues??? does the author mean estimated wealth? does the author know the difference? I don't know? he is very loose with numbers, I've seen his articles "covering" the referendum on the constitution, and I wasn't impressed...
Let's not forget that the king is not the richest man in Morocco, that would be Chaabi, maybe followed by Othman Ben Jelloun, which shows two new trends in Moroccan economy, higher inequality, and less Royal involvement in business, allowing for other families to surpass the Royal family...
The wealth of Royal family was huge at the time of Hassan II and it increased at a much lower rate than the wealth of other big families... most of whom made their profits working in public projects or benefiting from de facto monopolies...
Again the wealth of the Royal family should be a topic of concern, just like in Spain, the wealth of Juan Carlos is a topic of discomfort, and the wealth of Queen Elisabeth, is in England, but we need to address the the two issues separately, I'd rather focus on the king's cost to the taxpayer... and the limits of his involvement in the public life...
Again, a PhD should refrain from expressions like "King Mohamed VI was ranked No7 richest Monarch on earth with $2.5 billion in revenues", in addition to playing into the ignorance of the less informed readers who don't know how many monarchs there are out there "on earth", it presents them with a false figure... 5 to 6 times the true value... and that's sad...
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#10
RE: Activists Beaten For Protesting King's Oversized Budget —
2012-11-23 21:44
One thing I love about Moroccan nouveaux immigrants to the US, they learned so quickly to dance and shake around the issue a' la fox news or cnn political spinners.
The issue here is not how much M6 is richer or less rich than other monarchs, the issue is the royal family's expenditures that are never subject to any scrutinizing by the "elected" members of parliament.
In the 21st century, we have a king's expenditure paid for by the taxpayer is still considered a red line. I don't get how can anyone defend such a theft.
I am at awe that they are still folks who spent a healthy amount of time in the US talking to people who also spent decades or more in the US and trying to justify to them the looting that the royal palace in engaged in.
I wish these people could be honest and realize that sooner rather than later, the tables will turn, today the Egyptians rose up against their elected president who wanted to start fooling around with the law, people are no longer dumb or scared, after the Arab spring, things are no longer the same, and people should learn to grasp this new reality instead of being stuck in the ugly past.
Don't let the unknown scare you, things always get worse before it gets better. I don't to wake up one day and realize that Morocco is the only remaining autocracy in Africa.
Look around, not many countries are still ruled by dictators, Freedom is rising and people all over the world are freeing themselves. For how long you will still be considered a subject instead of a full fledged citizen of Morocco?
The issue here is not how much M6 is richer or less rich than other monarchs, the issue is the royal family's expenditures that are never subject to any scrutinizing by the "elected" members of parliament.
In the 21st century, we have a king's expenditure paid for by the taxpayer is still considered a red line. I don't get how can anyone defend such a theft.
I am at awe that they are still folks who spent a healthy amount of time in the US talking to people who also spent decades or more in the US and trying to justify to them the looting that the royal palace in engaged in.
I wish these people could be honest and realize that sooner rather than later, the tables will turn, today the Egyptians rose up against their elected president who wanted to start fooling around with the law, people are no longer dumb or scared, after the Arab spring, things are no longer the same, and people should learn to grasp this new reality instead of being stuck in the ugly past.
Don't let the unknown scare you, things always get worse before it gets better. I don't to wake up one day and realize that Morocco is the only remaining autocracy in Africa.
Look around, not many countries are still ruled by dictators, Freedom is rising and people all over the world are freeing themselves. For how long you will still be considered a subject instead of a full fledged citizen of Morocco?
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#11
My reply —
2012-11-24 16:43
This is a reply to Mr: Please please me, one of several Algerians, big fans of our Great Morocco :) and the title of his comment is "Where are the comments?":
First I have to say :"He who lives in a glass house shouldn't throw stones", I smiled while reading your typical Algerian.
You mentioned few points I would like to highlight here:
1- You wrote "To me if I were Moroccan, this is the key issue that needs clarification, as Morocco's future ..." = My answer to you is "if I were Algerian, I will rather go to an Algerian news board, if ever there is one, I'm not sure about that!, and discuss your mess between you, and try to find out why you killed, tortured and raped over 250 000 innocent children and women and elderly people under the name of Islam in the 90s, and why the uprising or Spring Arab in Algeria failed to materialize, why you have a president who rule your country for ages (lucky you are, he does not have a heir!), he makes himself a king but without a kingdom, and also why the military and intelligence people are so omnipresent in your country, why so many desperate Algerian people burn themselves alive (more than 130 self-immolation in Algeria each year), why people are so terribly scared, and why they live in fear of the secret police, why you have the highest unemployment rate in North Africa, why the food prices are so high in Algeria, where is the money of your so called oil and gas, why you don't have the same level of richness of life that other Arab rich oil suppliers countries have as Emirates, Qatar, etc...
2-Secont point you wrote "....As an Algerian truly concerned about the future of the Maghreb, I find these Moroccans...." , let me add here that there is no such Maghreb for us as Moroccans PERIOD. There is no brotherhood, no unity of Maghreb. There is Morocco, Tunisia and you, that's it. And if you live abroad, you should have noticed how Moroccans avoid Algerians, "salam" from far, that's it, and I'm one of them.
Have a good life far from Morocco
First I have to say :"He who lives in a glass house shouldn't throw stones", I smiled while reading your typical Algerian.
You mentioned few points I would like to highlight here:
1- You wrote "To me if I were Moroccan, this is the key issue that needs clarification, as Morocco's future ..." = My answer to you is "if I were Algerian, I will rather go to an Algerian news board, if ever there is one, I'm not sure about that!, and discuss your mess between you, and try to find out why you killed, tortured and raped over 250 000 innocent children and women and elderly people under the name of Islam in the 90s, and why the uprising or Spring Arab in Algeria failed to materialize, why you have a president who rule your country for ages (lucky you are, he does not have a heir!), he makes himself a king but without a kingdom, and also why the military and intelligence people are so omnipresent in your country, why so many desperate Algerian people burn themselves alive (more than 130 self-immolation in Algeria each year), why people are so terribly scared, and why they live in fear of the secret police, why you have the highest unemployment rate in North Africa, why the food prices are so high in Algeria, where is the money of your so called oil and gas, why you don't have the same level of richness of life that other Arab rich oil suppliers countries have as Emirates, Qatar, etc...
2-Secont point you wrote "....As an Algerian truly concerned about the future of the Maghreb, I find these Moroccans...." , let me add here that there is no such Maghreb for us as Moroccans PERIOD. There is no brotherhood, no unity of Maghreb. There is Morocco, Tunisia and you, that's it. And if you live abroad, you should have noticed how Moroccans avoid Algerians, "salam" from far, that's it, and I'm one of them.
Have a good life far from Morocco
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#12
my point of view —
2012-11-24 17:06
We have to agree on one point first, are we for the kingdom institution or do we want to swift to the republic system? If you ask all Moroccans, I'm sure 90% will say for "we are for the Kingdom", since it represents their History (The Berber Kings who ruled Morocco, Algeria, part of Tunisia and South of Spain for years) and their Culture(Imazigh ens,Jews, Arabs, Andaloussi, Sharaoui). Do we want to be like Tunisia, Egypt or do we prefer to fight for radical changes and more freedom, within our Kingdom institution, and it's doable, since it happened in England and Spain.
There are few Kings and Queens now, but let's take the example of Queen of England, the Royal expenses are also financed by public money which are taxes. I read recently the expenses are about 42 million pounds (here we are talking about STERLING and not euro or US dollars or Can Dollars), and this does not even include the security and trips, official entertainment ...
And the Queen does not pay taxes as most of us believe, she herself decides how much to pay on a voluntary basis, if she doesn't want to, no one will force her.
There are few Kings and Queens now, but let's take the example of Queen of England, the Royal expenses are also financed by public money which are taxes. I read recently the expenses are about 42 million pounds (here we are talking about STERLING and not euro or US dollars or Can Dollars), and this does not even include the security and trips, official entertainment ...
And the Queen does not pay taxes as most of us believe, she herself decides how much to pay on a voluntary basis, if she doesn't want to, no one will force her.
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#13
Out of sync. —
2012-11-25 14:26
Is it arrogance? Can the King be completely disconnected from the harsh realities of the everyday Moroccan life? I am at loss for words to describe this cavalier attitude towards the legion of poor in our country.
It's so befitting that Marie-Antoinett e once said : "let them eat cake!" since our king fancies himself as Louis XVI. And we all know what happened to the house of Bourbon in 1793.
Astighfar Allah.
It's so befitting that Marie-Antoinett e once said : "let them eat cake!" since our king fancies himself as Louis XVI. And we all know what happened to the house of Bourbon in 1793.
Astighfar Allah.
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#14
Highest Salaries —
2012-11-26 07:44
The highest salary in our country is that of the Maroc Telecom president, Abdeslam Ahizoune.
Even Rachid Taouissi, the national football coach, is paid more than the king in a month. And he won't even win us a plastic cup.
Tell me who is worth more? The king or a football coach. We have got to get our priorities right first.
Most of the wealth of the king is inherited from his ancestors. And I'd rather have a king who has an acute sense of business than a dumb clown who squanders his forefathers' wealth in a jet set lifestyle like many Arab monarchs and their spoilt kids.
Even Rachid Taouissi, the national football coach, is paid more than the king in a month. And he won't even win us a plastic cup.
Tell me who is worth more? The king or a football coach. We have got to get our priorities right first.
Most of the wealth of the king is inherited from his ancestors. And I'd rather have a king who has an acute sense of business than a dumb clown who squanders his forefathers' wealth in a jet set lifestyle like many Arab monarchs and their spoilt kids.
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#15
Now it is Robin Hood Justice —
2012-11-26 11:42
Take from the rich and give it to the poor. Here we go again. Social justice at its best. Equality under the mighty Allah. Since when all of the sudden people are realizing that the kings of the earth have so much money and they are so rich that it is wrong. Were the Moroccans asleep all this time? I sense some naive poetic justice, but underneath all this crass morality of the "souk" talk about wealth, there is a hypocrisy that has no bound. Arabs are the most hypocrites of all. If they were in position of power they would do the same thing. Take everything by enrishing themselves, their extended families and cronies and then throw the bones to the masses. They cannot admit this problems. Show me one Arab country were wealth in evenly distributed? All the Arab leaders and thuggs enriched themselves first, even Arafat (worth $300 million in Suiss bank acount, should I mentioned all the others.....
I cannot undertand why there is so much talk about equality of wealth. Have Moroccans thought about socialism. That would be nice, wouldn't that be? Everything is shared equaly. Wonderful!!! While the Russian and the Chinese are getting rid of this equality mentality, the Moroccans are trying to get back to it. It is fine and easy to talk about it, but how one is going to institutionaliz e it? That's what nobody is talking about. Where does this equality idea comes from? Not even the early Uma in Medina was equal... That's why you have a zakat which is NOT a redistribution of wealth but rather a part that each one of us must perform in order to lessen the economic inequalities. Going after the King for his wealth is not warrented. The Alaouite Dynasty worked hard for it and work hard to maintain against the mauroding vultures (Remind me of the Sourat El-Anfal) the booty...let's destroy everything, kill the owners because they are unbelievers and take away all the wealth that they had work so hard for. It sounds like anarchy to me.
I cannot undertand why there is so much talk about equality of wealth. Have Moroccans thought about socialism. That would be nice, wouldn't that be? Everything is shared equaly. Wonderful!!! While the Russian and the Chinese are getting rid of this equality mentality, the Moroccans are trying to get back to it. It is fine and easy to talk about it, but how one is going to institutionaliz e it? That's what nobody is talking about. Where does this equality idea comes from? Not even the early Uma in Medina was equal... That's why you have a zakat which is NOT a redistribution of wealth but rather a part that each one of us must perform in order to lessen the economic inequalities. Going after the King for his wealth is not warrented. The Alaouite Dynasty worked hard for it and work hard to maintain against the mauroding vultures (Remind me of the Sourat El-Anfal) the booty...let's destroy everything, kill the owners because they are unbelievers and take away all the wealth that they had work so hard for. It sounds like anarchy to me.
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#16
RE: Activists Beaten For Protesting King's Oversized Budget —
2012-11-27 00:09
There is a scene from Morocco in the following video....
fr.pourelles.yahoo.com/.../
I had the chance, honor and privilege to work in Morocco before moving here, I see the progress and I also see the setbacks...
My style is pretty simple, if you want to make an argument, make it simple, clear and always keep it honest...
People who can read, will see that my argument is that we should focus on the real issue which the true cost of monarchy, and disdain from expressions like "King Mohamed VI was ranked No7 richest Monarch on earth with $2.5 billion in revenues." in his argument, in addition to been false, it is misleading...
In fact, Benchemsi did a much better job in 2005 on the same issue, a detailed expose on the true expenses of monarchy, something similar but with more demagogy was presented by Anouzla a couple of weeks ago if I am not mistaking... but the present "article", is just rubbish...
Finally, I don't know how people measure their worth, mine is simple, it is by how much I did and will do, to contribute to my own people's good, and kudos for those who weigh it through their longevity in this country, or "on earth" to paraphrase the author, I am just longing for the day I will be able make it back home... I had some wonderful memories there and looking forward to even better ones...
fr.pourelles.yahoo.com/.../
I had the chance, honor and privilege to work in Morocco before moving here, I see the progress and I also see the setbacks...
My style is pretty simple, if you want to make an argument, make it simple, clear and always keep it honest...
People who can read, will see that my argument is that we should focus on the real issue which the true cost of monarchy, and disdain from expressions like "King Mohamed VI was ranked No7 richest Monarch on earth with $2.5 billion in revenues." in his argument, in addition to been false, it is misleading...
In fact, Benchemsi did a much better job in 2005 on the same issue, a detailed expose on the true expenses of monarchy, something similar but with more demagogy was presented by Anouzla a couple of weeks ago if I am not mistaking... but the present "article", is just rubbish...
Finally, I don't know how people measure their worth, mine is simple, it is by how much I did and will do, to contribute to my own people's good, and kudos for those who weigh it through their longevity in this country, or "on earth" to paraphrase the author, I am just longing for the day I will be able make it back home... I had some wonderful memories there and looking forward to even better ones...
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#17
Apples & Oranges —
2012-11-30 17:59
To those who are comparing the European monarchies with the Moroccan one, please don't. There is no comparison. For one, the European monarchies happen to exist within democratic societies. While Morocco is still imposing a dark ages system (Makhzen)on its citizens.
And to those who are so enamored with the absolute monarchy and its Makhzen system, why don't you go back and live in Morocco? If Morocco is such a great democracy, what on earth are you doing in the US?
Please, spare us the non-sense comparisons, but most of all, the hypocrisy.
And to those who are so enamored with the absolute monarchy and its Makhzen system, why don't you go back and live in Morocco? If Morocco is such a great democracy, what on earth are you doing in the US?
Please, spare us the non-sense comparisons, but most of all, the hypocrisy.
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#18
RE: Activists Beaten For Protesting King's Oversized Budget —
2013-01-18 17:52
First of all I am not big on comments but I would tell this guy morcelli or whatever it is to get lost,second of all aminaa I love you so much thirthley,any change we're going to make it has to be with the king and for the king and lastly,I find it bizarre to see these Algerians so iterested in moroccan affairs,I would never ever be looking at anything Algerian period I just disliked them so much......thank s
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