Daniel and other romantic fools,
Read about Spanish and French colonialism in Morocco.. France had wised up soon enough and widthrew but Spain had Franco and held up until we Marched on them in 75'. Unfortunately Algiers and Kaddafi did not like the King and poisoned the situation for us. Now you want to do the same under the guise of Human rights and International legality. Give me a break. Please be assured we'll keep Marching...

As far as legality? are you a comic or something? The law belongs to whomever writes it and whenever it is convenient.

What did your legality say about the Million Algerian killed by European colonialism, the chemical weapons Spain dropped on the Rif; The spanish wars against Morocco?
What does the law say about Sebta and Mellila? Gaza??? Georgia??? Corsica??? Congo?? Ruwanda??? Cyprus??? Lebanon?? Nigeria, Mali, Soudan!, Somalia!, Zimbabwe, Afghanistan, Irak, China, Australia, Chechnya, Kosovo, Bosnia and on and on ...
As the world turn... right?

This is a joke!
I think Autonnomy is more than anyone could hope for from Morocco.
let's have a peaceful agreement and move on.

Peace-

Spain is very well aware of the historic nobility and courage of the Moroccan people. They understand better than to mess with us.
In the glorious Rif war Spain committed war crimes and used chemical weapons to massacre civilians, yet our mujaheddin led by Al Amir A. Alkhattabi kicked their ass and nearly killed the fascist Franco in Melillia. We do have many cards that can be used to undermine Spain and make life hell for them. They should be thankful that morocco is led by a sage, patient and philosopher king Mohamed 6. So a polite and wise advice to Spain get off our back please.

If you dare to touch it....

Dans un livre paru récemment sous le titre la Reine de très près, la reine Sophia d'Espagne ravive la tension entre Rabat et Madrid au sujet des deux enclaves espagnoles de Ceuta et Melilla en affirmant : “Ceuta et Melilla sont l'Espagne : les territoires, l'histoire, la population.”
Sujet de tension régulière entre l'Espagne et le Maroc, l'affaire des enclaves espagnoles de Ceuta et Melilla est à nouveau au devant de la scène avec la sortie du livre écrit par la journaliste Pilar Urbano, dans lequel s'exprime la reine d'Espagne sur de nombreux sujets d'actualité. La souveraine ibérique accorde une importance particulière aux deux enclaves, qu'elle a pu visiter il y a un an, et parle de l'existence d'"obstacles" de la part du Royaume alaouite. Elle enfonce le clou, notamment dans le passage "Ceuta et Melilla sont l'Espagne : les territoires, l'histoire, la population", qui remet au goût du jour ce conflit récurent entre les deux pays. Poursuivant, la reine Sofia affirme que feu S. M. Hassan II "essayait de tendre des pièges" à son mari, le roi Juan Carlos. Elle rapportera ainsi, que Hassan aurait adressé une "invitation douteuse" à Juan Carlos pour lui organiser un accueil dans ces deux enclaves, dans le but évident de le piéger. Selon elle, son époux répondait toujours à Hassan II : "Comment voulez-vous me recevoir dans des terres qui sont les miennes ?" Dans le même ordre d'idées, et concernant la stratégie royale marocaine dans le traitement de ce dossier, elle ajoute que "tout comme Hassan II, Mohammed VI continue de protester et de réclamer, de temps à autre, comme propres au Maroc les deux villes autonomes". Pour la reine d'Espagne, cette manière de faire a pour objectif de garder le dossier ouvert d'une part, et d'autre part rendre le sourire au peuple marocain à travers la mesure de rappeler l'ambassadeur du Maroc à Madrid. On se rappelle que le chef de la mission diplomatique marocaine dans la capitale espagnole, Omar Azziman, n'a rejoint son poste qu'en février 2008. "Ce sont des mesures, pas bonnes, que nous connaissons, mais qui ne nous dérangent pas", indiquera-t-elle. Revenant sur la fameuse visite de Juan Carlos des 5 et 6 novembre 2007, qui avait fait monter d'un cran la tension entre le Maroc et l'Espagne, elle insistera sur le fait que "les habitants sont descendus dans la rue pour dire : nous sommes espagnols !" En dépit de ces sévères critiques envers le roi Mohammed VI, aucune réaction n'a été enregistrée du côté de Rabat, où le silence radio est de mise. Enfin, pour information, la reine Sophia, qui fête aujourd'hui son soixante-dixième anniversaire, est grecque d'origine. C'est la fille du roi Paul Ier de Grèce et sa mère est la reine Frederika, née princesse Frederika de Hanovre. Elle a pour frère cadet l'ancien roi Constantin II de Grèce.

basques, they have at least same features as spaniards, as far as Sahraouis they do not look like moroccans sorry totally differents humans features from moroccans...

Dear Craig;
I apologize for what I said! I am sorry for being stoburn! You know, it is hard to know who is who on the internet! I am used to debate the Algerian on different forums of different Moroccan newspapers, and let me tell you, they have nothing to say but insults! I am used to the french speaking mindset, sorry! I should've known better, because english speaking folks are more polite,disciplined and respectfull of others!
I just finished reading your comments after commenting on your recent comment! Anyway, I totally agree with you in all what you said, I am sorry to tell you that is not Morocco who does not want peace between peoples! Morocco, has been always and the only political entity asking peacefully the other side to sit down and talk! As you might recall, Morocco asked Algeria several times to open the borders between the two countries,so people and families would be able to join and celebrate! Nothing happened, instead Algeria considered Morocco is starving and want their economy! Stupid,ain't? Anyway, any thing like that gives them the plaisure to think like they are humiliating the people of Morocco!
With respect to the Moroccan Sahara conflict, Morocco, was the only one who asked for a referendum! Also, because of Moroccan good faith initiatives, we have seen few negociations at Manhaset between separatists and the Saharawi UNIONISTS! in the overall, Morocco spent billions of US $ to develope the southern provinces, while Algeria spent and is spending billions of US $ to arm itself in preparation for war against Morocco! I am not sure what else can this Morocco do! If there is any political entity that wants peace in the region, that is Morocco! Please don't take my word for it, jut do your homework, and verify that by either searching the web, or if you speak french, please read both the Moroccan and Algerian newspapers and you will see for yourself! Mr. Mead, you seem to be a nice guy, and you love peace and you wish good for people and their prosperity, but that is unfortunately not the mindset of the Algerian government! If you noticed I mentioned the government of Algeria several times, because of its hostile politics against Morocco! Algeria is the ultimate responsable for what ever problems occuring in the region! It is the only obstacle for solving this problem that becomes a cancer in our body! Happy Holidays!
Thank you Sir, and GOD BLESS!

Dear Sarah, I am not sure of who you are, but can you define who are the Sahrawi people?

Sir, Craig Mead;
I am hoping you are jocking!
I hesitated for a while before I decided to draft these lines for you! I just want you to know that the issue is not "Moroccans are like Sahrawis, or vise versa! Morocco is a mosaic, or a melting pot if you wish! Each and every region in Morocco has its specific dimentions in terms of culture, music, food, clothing language traditions etc.!In this country there are Muslims, Jews, Chrestians, Amazigh, Arab etc., they are all competing for the same space!" This is not what the Sahara conflict is about!
Mr. Mead, I tried to follow the line of your argument, I got lost! I am not sure what's the point! You are talking infrastructure, water, education, jobs, etc.! HO HO HO,Merry Christmas;I wish if a thirty year conflict would be this simple! Mr. Mead, the problem is political and it is embeded in the mindset of the Algerian military apparatus! Gues what, we don't care! They can keep their hate for ever if they opt to, or they can shove it for good, it is their problem! Anyway, since you seem to have no clue, let me give you few bits and pieces of the problem:
a- The majority of the Sahrawi people are outside the refugee camps in Tindouf! These are the UNIONISTS, who refused to be sold! They do not approve of separatists, they never voted for their republic, and they already have their CORCAS! By the way CORCAS is for all Sahrawi people, including the refugees in Tindouf!
b- The refugees in the camps, completely reject "algerosario" as their representative!
c- There are other Sahrawi movemnts who claim the representation of the refugees!
d- The Sahrawi population "UNIONISTS" are living in peace and dignity in their Towns, Villages, Cities, and are working hard to achieve the very norms you mentioned!
e- The refugees are constantly returning to their families whenever the opportunity to escape the camps presents itself! The refugees have been encarcerated at gun point by the Algerian armey, and the separatists' military personel for 30 years, they are sick and tired of slavery!
f- You also need to keep in mind, and this is important; the separatists "algerosario" claimed they are from YEMEN! They published their origin on their own website and told the whole planet who they are! Well you know Yemen is not in North Africa, and certainly not in Morocco, so they can simply pack and go back to their loved ones ain't? This is a well documented story of separatism fabricated by the government of Algeria which is full of hate against the people of Morocco! The problem is not as simple as you might think it is! The problem is the mindset, illitracy, ignorance, lack of logic and vision that caracterize the politics of the government of Algeria! Mr. Mead, there is too much to say about this, but if you are really interested, you need to be neutral and search for facts yourself. You don't need to listen to me, because I am defending my country and my people base on what I believe is the truth! You appear to be simple and naive, while the problem is far more rooted in a long history of hate and belligerency!
Good luck!

Dear Mohamed,

Your article outlining historic events that surround the Western Sahara was brilliant and refreshing.

Unfortunately, when you tarnish such a fine historic piece and analysis with insults and phrases such as "LIES, you are
completely entitled to remain IGNORANT" etc. and attack the author (and it seems others who want an end to the divide) you do not HEAL the nation, or REUNITE the people.

You simply cause further anger, angst, gut-wrenching passion and flare ups and blog flame wars. There can be no peace when people cannot sit and eat with each other and no one wants to eat with someone who insults his neighbors so easily.

You are obviously a smart man. You clearly state that most of the refugees do not support the Polisario and I believe you. I believe they would support a reunited nation and end of the struggle. You clearly state the entire problem was due to subversive politics and I believe you. The best way to reverse and eliminate that attack on Morocco is to heal the region, end the strife and smile at the enemies of Morocco that their plan failed - then invite them to dinner and see if something more productive can be arranged between such neighbors.

Fighting and insults lead nowhere. I work with kids in gang infested neighborhoods. Blacks, Mexicans, Asians (fortunately not a lot of Arabic gang members - just occasional terrorists bombing subways - thank goodness - such terrorists, while a real nightmare, are nothing compared to real gang warfare in terms of cost to society - but I digress).

Let's remain focused.

The goal is

a) reuniting the region and

b) ending the strife and

c) opening the door to those people who belong in the area - let them come home to

d) new schools, new farms, new tourist industry, new prosperity and

e) let the Moroccan government enjoy the tax benefits and new prosperity and

f) let the government share such wealth, as it has usually done in the past, with its people - all of them - and get on with the business of 'growing a nation' and 'growing a region'.

War, strife, insults, divided families mean a huge cost to everyone - the young and old - and as long as the people are divided and the region remains barren, no prosperity will come and Morocco will continue to have a sore - a huge cancer - that is killing its southern area and is affecting its northern area.

If reunited and the refugees were invited to come home, the Polisaro would have no personnel to train or to oversee or to harass in Southwestern Algeria. They'd escape or die trying and that would be the end of it. It would be nice if there was a better way to free them from such a plight, but until Algeria cooperates, no such process can take place.

As I said in my other email - don't worry about what you cannot do - instead, do those things you can do - like make peace, be nice, stay calm and open your arms to those 'family' members you can embrace once again.

And one that is done, hopefully SOMEONE in authority in Morocco will contact our firm (goldpactpower) and we can get on with the road to prosperity.

I will say this again (I have been saying it for years, but here we go again): MOROCCO HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE ONE OF THE RICHEST NATIONS ON EARTH WITH VAST STRETCHES OF FARMLAND, A HUGE, RICH VARIETY OF SCHOOLS AND HEALTHCARE SYSTEMS THAT WOULD MAKE KUWAIT, BAHRAIN AND THE SAUDI'S JEALOUS AND AGRICULTURE AND ENERGY EXPORTS THAT WOULD MAKE THEM EVEN MORE JEALOUS and thereafter, become the central hub for a rich array of products from the region that spans all the way to Cameroon - gold, diamonds, uranium and more agriculture and energy products.

Morocco could be the big brother these nations have been searching for.

But none of this will take place until someone in authority at Morocco contacts us (or this board) and we get down to the step-by-step process of healing the region and then hitting the milestones (objectives) of our plan.

It starts by not insulting each other (stay calm) and by envisioning a common goal - one that is good for the region, good for the people, great for Morocco and (ahem - hard to believe...but) is even good for Algeria, Tunisia and Libya....maybe even Egypt, as well as all the nations all the way to Cameroon and perhaps beyond.

Morocco could be 'the Capital Nation' of Africa if it played its cards right.

Our plan does that for you and I am not even Moroccan. I am just a CEO and I teach kids in gang infested areas (free classes) because I hate seeing a wonderful family or neighborhood at war.

But it won't start until someone in authority SUPORTS our plan and until now (thank you Mr. Masiky) listens.

Considering the alternatives and the failures of the U.N. and everyone else to resolve the problem, what have you got to lose by TRYING it my way? A little peace and neighborly love might just do the trick.

We will not forget the Green March. Your dirty political parlor tricks will not stop us from seeking what is rightfuly ours. The Saharawi people want the right to self determination. Morocco needs to get out. Stop killing and torturing innocents who simply ask for their rightful freedom. Moroccans are also similar in customs and appearence to Mauritanians, so should all three countries just meld into one?

As the article suggests, the Sahrawis are culturally THE SAME as Moroccans, making them YOUR FAMILY. While that may be true, undoubtedly they have some differences, so lets call them COUSINS instead of BROTHERS AND SISTERS. That way, as they perish under impoverished conditions in southwestern Algeria, it will be easier to forget them and forget the fact that in many ways, ignoring their plight and solutions that could have ended the stalemate led them to that fate. There's less guilt and blood on your hands when you distance yourself from them or make excuses on WHY its ok to allow this nightmare to go on WHEN IT DOESN'T HAVE TO CONTINUE.

It continues because the Polisario are stubborn and blind to the suffering and because the government of Morocco are stubborn and deaf to simple solutions and the people under both ruling parties aren't pressing for resolution NOW, THIS YEAR, THIS MONTH, THIS WEEK.

The actual solution is very simple and I've visited the Consulate in Manhattan - very polite in the lobby - but no returned calls. I wrote to the Moroccoboard web site - no returned emails. I wrote to the Ministers in Morocco - no reply.

The solutions involved increased revenue, power, water and food production, both for Morocco and the Western Sahara, no separate state (no sovereignty), yet plenty of revenue and infrastructure for both regions, expansion of education, energy and agriculture from the Med all the way down to Mauritania and expansion of programs and influence east and southeast, all the way to Cameroon, allowing Morocco to become the 'BIG BROTHER' to a wealth of opportunities.

But with no reply or even indications that anyone in power wants a solution, deaf and blind to the strife and suffering seem to be the policy of both sides at this time. It is like allowing a war to exist within a family that is supposed to love its children, even when the answer is so simple.

In our firm we try to ignore what we can't do and focus on goals and what we CAN do. Morocco and the Western Sahara COULD reunite and heal and get back onto the road to prosperity almost overnight...but it does require an open ear and opening your eyes to the alternative...or should I say...the present reality of a grave situation that doesn't have to be that way.

Bravo dear friend Abdelkader!
I read the article, it was well done. Only one suggestion if you don't mind, "polisario",or as better known "algerosario" is a politico/military movement, which is not a state! They call their state or republic "rasd" with its flag half Agerian! As you know no Sahrawi voted for this imaginary republic anyway!
Thank you for your efforts, and welcome to the club.

I am Abdelkader Filali, I have recently moved o Toronto-Canada after spending 8 years in the state of Kuwait.

Just want let you know that an article was written in Arabic in one of the Arabic news paper published here in Toronto against Morocco(Moroccan Sahara) and I replied to the article you can find both articles here:

http://arabnews.ca/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6724&Itemid=36

http://arabnews.ca/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6748&Itemid=2


Abdelkader Filali

You are the ones who do not see facts that are crystal clear!
Anyway, you are completely entitled to remain IGNORANT; we as Moroccans, we are going to fight for our dignity, and the historic sovereignty of our nation! Whether you like it or not, the Sahara “conflict area” was, is, and will always remain part of the kingdom of Morocco! The Spanish armada invited the southern part of Morocco in 1884, and illegally declared this part of Morocco as a Spanish constituency! Pursuant to the Berlin “shameful” conference in 1885, colonialists French, and Spaniards, in 1934 concluded an agreement between them based on which, Spanish colonialists have established their illegal boundary line amputated our territory! Today, and after the return of the territory to the motherland, that illegal boundary line has no legal status, we reject it completely. That line exists in the mind set of what we call “mentalidad del torero” only! The international court of justice’s advisory opinion confirmed and recognized the Moroccan sovereignty over the territory! It was the Moroccan army of liberation “Jaish A ttahrir Ashaabi”, that fought Spanish and French colonialists at that time, not “polisario”! This anarchist movement was not even on this planet! This anarchist movement of “yours” was created by the government of Algeria for reasons we all know! The government of Houari Boumedian, shamefully recruited Moroccans who were members of well known and active political parties in the country at the time! In his meeting with the then president of Mauritania, Moukhtar Ould Daddeh, at Colone Bechar shout of Algeria, defunct Houari Boumedian warned Ould daddeh of the consequences if he “does not withdraw and stop supporting Morocco”! Sure enough, Mauritania was attacked several times, and Ould Daddeh was over thrown! Immediately thereafter, and under the threat and pressure of the Algerian government, Mauritania retreated from the conflict without consulting the people of Mauritania! So, to you information, Morocco did not divide any thing with no body! Stop your lies and your empty propaganda!
Morocco suggested “referendum” as a viable solution in 1981! Today, we consider referendum irrelevant, and we categorically reject it for the following reasons!
1- The absolute majority of the Sahrawi people is outside the camps in Tindouf, south of Algeria, does recognize or support the separatist idea!
2- The majority of the Sahrawi refugees in the camps at Tindouf, does not recognize representative status of “polisario”! Go and ask refugees at Raboni, and other camps!
3- The world neither knows the total of the Sahrawi refugees at Tindouf, nor does it know their identity!
4- There are other Sahrawi movements who represent the refugees, especially Khat Achahid, GSI, or the Sahrawi of Dijjmat !
5- The constant return of the Sahrawi refugees from the incarcerated camps at Tindouf to Morocco. You cannot impose such a referendum under these circumstances!
6- The total Sahrawi population from Smara to l’Gouira neither recognizes “polisario”, nor voted for its republic with its flag half Algerian!
7- We consider this option irrelevant at this point, because it was the government of Algeria, and “polisario”, who rejected the criteria for voting eligibility established by SG of the UN, especially criteria#2!
8- This movement “polisario” claimed it represents people from YEMEN; so, how someone from Yemen would have the guts to claim a Moroccan territory?
9- The father and the family of Mr. Al Marrakchi the president of the imaginary republic, and the head of this movement, is not in Tindouf! Does this mean anything to you? I don’t think so!
Mr. Masiky,
First I would like to thank you for this effort, but I would like to suggest that the government of Spain is different from the Spanish “NGO” who support “polisario”, and who we call “mentalidad del torero”! These are two different entities! Please don’t mix the topics! We know the official position of the Spanish government, EU, and the rest of the world. We are defending our just case! Belligerency, intransigence, lies, fake arguments and fabricated stories will never pass! Let them bark as much as they want!
Thank you
El Younsi Mohamed

This back and forth argument about who did what is not going to cut it. The reality on the ground is that we will never donate the Moroccan Sahara to Algeria. That's like donating Rabat. If the Sahara is a non governed territory as you stated then that's the reason Morocco is proposing that the inhabitants of the Sahara can govern themselves thanks to the autonomy. Let the Algerians generals headed by Bouteflika and the Cuban-educated hoping to climb up the ranks of the Polisario dream that they will never break our will to defend the Moroccan Sahara as we did in the last 33 years and beyond. The gates of Tindouf will eventually open and for those who think that they are defending a just cause, they can go and fight/defend for Kashmir, they can side with India or they can pick Pakistan.

Let me ask you few questions:

1- We all know that Europe is mostly democratic, right? why is it that no country in Europe recognizes that the Sahara belongs to the Polisario/Algeria?

2- Where will be the Polisario with no Algerian Generals support?

3- Are the Sahraouis in Tindouf better off under the Polisario?

4- Why under the mutual visits agreements some Sahraouis chose to remain in the motherland Morocco?

The world knows that the problem is Moroccan/Algerian and it needs to be solved between the two.
Algerian generals are holding so many grudges from the past on the expense on the people of the Maghreb. Algerian Generals and Moroccan old lions are not eternal, the sea of change will come to our shores.

Good Day!

Well, you first are ignoring that the Western Sahara is considered a Non-Self Governed Territory at the United Nations. Second you are ignoring that the Western Sahara has never been Moroccan, is illegally occupied, according to the ruling of the International Court of Justice 1975, and is due a referendum AGREED by Morocco at the cease-fire of 1991. Everything Morocco is doing in the Western Sahara is ILLEGAL. Soon the Western Sahara will be FREE.

California Western Sahara

Again, I know that a lie repeated 1000 times becomes a true and that is exactly is what happens to many Moroccans. the saharawis are different and they defeated Spain before your king invaded western Sahara in 1975. I bet you if you or any of your grandfathers new anything about western Sahara before 1975. If Western Sahara was Moroccan where were you when POLISARIO was fighting spain in 1973 and why did you divided it with Mauritania? and why accept the referendum for 14 years and then back down?
But we all know that Moroccan monarchy is like the nasty neighbor in your building who have problems with all. Morocco also thought Mauritania was part of it and parts of Mali, Algeria and Spain..... "Too many countries who want to threaten our territorial integrity" that is simply the third-world, stupid thinking to divert the attention of the people from the real problems. Moroccans do not need more land to die in the Mediterranean, they need a real government, a real parliament, a real judiciary system ..... a real country and you guys here are disusing how to oppress a people that you forced to live divided and in the desert for more than 30 years. ONLY THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE AND YOUR COUNTRY

Mr Julio,
You raised some very mediocre questions but I'll answer them for you anyway.
Morocco opposes the the referendum because it would not be fair to the people of Casablanca, Rabat, Agadir, Marrakesh, and Fez...etc. They too would need to hold a referendum to see if they are part of Morocco. If we start negotiating giving up the Moroccan Sahara, then why not negotiate giving up other cities? Why stop there?
You have asked the reason we cannot see crystal clear, Sorry to tell you that we do see clear that Morocco will never ever gives up an inch of its territories, and we are not going to stop there, we will also free Sebta and Melilia and as a goodwill gesture, we will support Spain to regain Gibraltar from the British. We are going to do it one at the time.

You asked with capital letters "THE MOROCCAN DST AND OTHER SERVICES STILL TORTURE SAHARAUIS TO MAKE THEM BE MOROCCANS?"
You got me there, but things are improving and you would be fool to deny this fact, Didn't you see Aminatou in and out of the country bashing Morocco while holding a Moroccan Passport? Any other country would revoke the passport but we are not going to do that, we prefer to be bashed using a moroccan Passport as opposed a Swedish one. still when you have bunch of kids throwing stones and Kalashnikov, you are forced to react and I do agree that the way the moroccan Police react, can be severe. This Police reaction can be encountered in Casablanca and Rabat as well and that's something Morocco needs to work on.
"Torturing sahraouis to make them Moroccans", that is a typical childish and frankly a stupid statement. Everyone is this planet knows that you never change someone's feeling using force.
Paying lobbyist is a business as usual, everyone uses lobbyists to make his/her point. Sometimes you need to use other means to prove your point. There is no country on earth that does not uses the services of the lobby. The polisario that you are supporting are using lobbyists thanks to Algeria.
Now try something and most of us here are open to debate any point that makes sens.

Donating the Sahara to the Algerians via the Polisario makes sens to you?

Good Day!

Hello!
As always, I really do not know why you guys cant see what is cristal clear to everybody else in the world.IT IS CLEAR THAT YOU ARE EDUCATED THIS WAY SINCE CHILDHOOD!. Western Sahara HEVE NEVER BEEN PART OF MOROCCO. there are many UN resolutions to sustain that and an ICJ rule. Furtheremore, if you really think what you state, and if you think that western Sahara is moroccan then WHY DO MOROCCCO STILL OPSING A REFERENDUM ON SELFDETERMINATION? WHY THE MOROCCAN DST AND OTHER SERVICES STILL TORTURE SAHARAUIS TO MAKE THEM BE MOROCCANS? WHY IS MOROCCO PAYING MILLIONS OF US$ TO LOBBYSTS IN DC TO DEFEND ITS "JUST" CAUSE? ONLY THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE....

First of all, Moroccans cannot march in the streets of Bilbao with the basques because the Basques are one the biggest supporters of the Polisario. That's not even an option.
Spain does what's good for Spain. EU does what's good the for the EU. These entities have nothing to gain by supporting the Moroccan proposal. The divide between Algeria and Morocco is good business for the EU. Why would they support us if that's going to piss the Algerian off?? That's not a good business strategy. Why would the EU support the basques when Spain is a EU member? EU looks after the EU.
No one does something for Nothing. The EU are looking south to expand their investments for cheap and what’s better way to infiltrate these markets than acting as the good friend of Algeria and Morocco?
One might ask, what should we do then?
There is something we can do and we might be successful; and that is to implement this autonomy with or without the Polisario, with or without the UN blessing, and against Algeria, Spain, the EU's tactics.
Buying time and kissing up to Malawi and Vanuatu is not the way to go.
Instead of marching in Bilbao, we need to march in layoun, Smara, and in every corner of of the Moroccan Sahara with democratic values, ideals, and facts. Right now we have none. Until we implement a true democracy, Spain, the EU, and even the US will simply look at us as a joke. We will never ever gain any respect without a true democracy.
We can counter Algeria's stubbornness and oil money with democracy, freedom, and love for our country. Let’s not forget, the sahraouis should be allowed to decide how this autonomy can be implemented.
Lastly, the Sahara problem is a huge problem to fix but by now we should have learned from our mistakes and we should not repeat past flaws.
Thank you Hassan.
Happy Turkey everyone. I am having couscous instead.
Good day!

thank you for your analysis, really good, it's exactley the same for Australia and norway, they have the same issues, and they support those pro-AlQaeda goups called polisario

A very interesting idea that i kind of suspected. It allways appeared to me that the colonials borders of the Western Sahara corresponded to anything but the whim of the european colonizers.
I am not familiar with history of the tribes of the zone but if the berebers that comprise the most of the Magreb population can integrate more or less into Algeria, Marocco etc so can the saharauis.
The hipocrisy of suposedly democratic states like Spain regarding their minoritis flies in the face of a minimun of decency when a Non-Binding consult regarding the opinion of the basque people over thir relations to the spanish state is prohibited from taking place in DEMOCRATIC Spain.

exactly Mr Mask!,the so called "civil society" in spain is just a hiden hand or the inofficial policy of the spanish governement,who masters the political hypocrisy.

why dooes morocco not move in this direction,I´m tired of the "godd will2 policy of Rabat,that didn´t paid guys,that will never pay,cauz madrid will always see morocco as a threat,you know,the "morros" are coming from the south..

I wish that rabat opens bureaus of the ETA in morocco,and that our NGOs cooperate closely with them,to show to madrid what reciprocity is!

we´re tired of being always the dumb neighbour searching for dialog,where is no will from the other side to dialog..

look just to their visits in Rabat and Algiers!when we receive them they tell what we want,and in algiers it supports the "referendum of the saharaoui peaple"!if that is not hypocrisy?

pleae wake up there!!!

exactly Mr Mask!,the so called "civil society" in spain is just a hiden hand or the inofficial policy of the spanish governement,who masters the political hypocrisy.

why dooes morocco not move in this direction,I´m tired of the "godd will2 policy of Rabat,that didn´t paid guys,that will never pay,cauz madrid will always see morocco as a threat,you know,the "morros" are coming from the south..

I wish that rabat opens bureaus of the ETA in morocco,and that our NGOs cooperate closely with them,to show to madrid what reciprocity is!

we´re tired of being always the dumb neighbour searching for dialog,where is no will from the other side to dialog..

look just to their visits in Rabat and Algiers!when we receive them they tell what we want,and in algiers it supports the "referendum of the saharaoui peaple"!if that is not hypocrisy?

pleae wake up there!!!