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Algeria's Bungled Anti terrorism War

Algerian allegation of Morocco’s support of violent Armed Groups
Among the several accusations leveled by certain anti-Morocco elements of the Algerian military establishment, the allegation of Morocco’s support of violent Armed Groups such as the al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb is the most appalling.
Faced with a recent surge in political violence that accumulated with the June 17 bomb attack that left 18 dead, the Algerian authorities are recycling old stories about Morocco’s supposed role in supporting such terrible acts.  This latest attack was ever more alarming since it took place in an area that was reported by the Algerian Army as being safe and “cleansed”. The Wilaya of Bordj Bou Arreridj, where that attack took place, is located in the center of the country signaling that AQIM is active in several regions and can strike at will and ease simultaneously and lethally through out the Algerian heartland.

Algeria has been plagued with political violence since 1990 and it starting to look as if the end of this bloody chapter is still elusive. In the last few months, AQIM (al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb). has claimed responsibility for a number of high profile attacks in several countries in the Sahel region. With hits in Algeria, Mauritania, Niger, and especially Mali, AQIM (al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb) is more operational than ever.

 
It is not a coincidence that the recent surge of Armed Groups activities in Algeria came in the aftermath of the embarrassing Presidential election prolonging the reign of President Bouteflika for another term. The lack of political changes coupled with deteriorating socio-economic conditions of the average Algerian is bound to boost recruitment for AQIM (al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb) among sections of disillusioned the Algerian population.
 
All evidence points to the homegrown nature of the AQIM and its likes. Contemporary armed political violence in North Africa was born and raised in Algeria. There is not a shred of credible evidence of foreign involvement of any power in the on going blood bath in Algeria. Attempts to drag Morocco into this quagmire are nothing but a desperate attempt by certain Algerian Generals to explain the failure of the Algerian state to secure the country.
 
The ineptitude of the Algerian security forces to protect its citizen is no accident; it is a conspiracy against the Algerian people to keep the Algerian Military relevant and “needed” to protect the people. The electoral platform used by the Military junta backed President Bouteflika during his campaign was: “Algerians need Bouteflika to keep peace and order”.
 
Back in December of last year, the Algerian press published statement supposedly made by a certain Abdelhak Layada , the founder of Armed Islamic Group” (GIA), alleging that the late King Hassan II has offered Morocco’s help and support to his group as a retaliation of Algeria’s support of the Polisario separatist militia. Omitted in the reporting of this story is the fact that Layada was arrested in Morocco by Moroccan security forces and handed, on orders from Hassan II, to the ungrateful Algerian authorities. Why would Moroccans return Layada to the Algerians if Rabat was trying to recruit him? It does not make any sense!
 
In fact, the late King Hassan II took strides to avoid any Moroccan involvement in the civil war that was raging in Algeria during the 1990’s. Even tough the FIS leadership was more sympathetic to Morocco’s attempts to peacefully resolve the Western Sahara conflict; Rabat never fully extended the welcoming mat to the FIS leadership. Realizing that a Moroccan overture toward FIS would be used by the Algerian Army to turn the average Algerian against Morocco, King Hassan II kept it distance from the Algerian chaos.
 
The Moroccan authorities have their hands full with few homegrown violent groups that are aiming to destabilize the Kingdom. Morocco is facing a similar danger as Algeria but with much lower intensity. Morocco’s success to fend off violent attacks has to do with luck and vigilance. Unlike the neighbors to the east, Morocco is fully engaged to secure its citizens. As long as some element in the Algerian Army are financially “benefiting” from the chaos and the continued attacks, innocent Algerian will keep paying the price.
 
Algeria’s resolve to fight AQIM (al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb) is in question, and accusing Morocco to be behind a purely internal crisis should not distract observers from the facts. The United States and the European Union have heavily invested in securing the Algerian Sahara and the Sahel region, making the accusation against Morocco, an ally to both, even more absurd and desperate.
 
Algerian accusations of Morocco’s involvement in the Algerian violence are careless, nevertheless they must be answered.  
 
 

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Hmimarmad
0 #1 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Algeria's Bungled Anti terrorism WarHmimarmad 2009-06-25 18:18
Dear Mr Hassan and al,
Could you venture and tell us what Algeria wants?
Is it a vendetta? is it lust of regional power? is a tool to used to keep the Algerian people at large? Is the lack of exposure to the Atlantic ocean? Is it what Algeria ridiculously claim: principal? is it jealousy?
What is it?
Please enlighten us, because I really do not see why Algeria is doing everything possible to screw us, the level of hate is beyond what is mentioned above.
Thank you!

PS. for those idolizing lbasri, your dumb input will be ignored.
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Djamel
0 #2 Get your facts straightDjamel 2009-06-25 22:16
You said: "Back in December of last year, the Algerian press published statement supposedly made by a certain Abdelhak Layada , the founder of Armed Islamic Group” (GIA), alleging that the late King Hassan II has offered Morocco’s help and support to his group as a retaliation of Algeria’s support of the Polisario separatist militia."

It was the Moroccan press that published the statement of Abdelhak Layada, not the Algerian one.

Abdelhak Layada accused the late king hassanII when he was interviewed by the Moroccan daily AL MASSAE, and what he said is out there for anyone to read about.

The guy has been released from prison and is getting on with his life, can't you guys do the same and stop dwelling about the past?
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Salem
0 #3 You'll stay in dark...Salem 2009-06-26 01:14
You're not the only one who needs enlightness about this issue. All the moroccan people like you, because the moroccan government never says the truth to the moroccan citizens. Algerian government has backed all the african liberation movements since his indépendance. And South Africa has made of the independece of the Western Sahara his heart issue.
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Freedom
0 #4 This forum should change its name to Algeria bashing board.Freedom 2009-06-26 05:15
There we go again, it is really of a poor taste to find joy in other peoples tragedies. First, dear Mr.MASIKY, i just want to bring to your attention that Algeria is 3.5 times the size of Texas, with a total area of 2,381,740 sq km which means it is virtually impossible to have a policeman in every sq km, having said that, according to most experts AQIM is on the run and its operational capabilities have been severely reduced, and the their latest crime against the innocent gendarmes ( Lah yerhamhoum ) was what dead enders do to improve the morale of their troops. What i find appealing in your article is that you are trying to justify the acts of these terrorists "It is not a coincidence that the recent surge of Armed Groups activities in Algeria came in the aftermath of the embarrassing Presidential election prolonging the reign of President Bouteflika for another term. The lack of political changes coupled with deteriorating socio-economic conditions of the average Algerian is bound to boost recruitment for AQIM (al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb) among sections of disillusioned the Algerian population" Dear sir, regardless of the last election results, such crimes should never be justified, i do not know who are your sources but if you go to any Algerian city and talk to any average Algerian, he will tell you that Killing a policeman, gendarme or an military is a despicable crime. In other words, the AQIM has no sympathy within the Algerian society.

Second, I do think that it is kind of ironic that you are saying that the Algerian army has failed to secure the country. How about we go back in time when the Moroccan Army was unable to secure its so called its southern provence and even Morocco proper in some cases, and when the Polisario captured thousands of Moroccan soldiers in the battlefields, you know why that happened? it was not because the Morccoccan Army was weak, the reason is that Conventional Armies have always had hard time adopting to guerilla tactics Vietnam for the US And Algeria for France can be the perfect illustration of that. In the case of Algeria its even worst, we are not facing a guerilla, Algerian army has total control of every inch of Algeria but it is having to deal with groups of 20 to 30 criminals that try to commit their crimes and run for cover.

Finally, Algeria had never officially accused Morocco of supporting AQIM, again i do not know where are you getting your sources but i don't think newspapers represent the official view of the Algerian Government. On the other hand, we are accusing Morocco of turning the blind eye on the arms and drugs transfers to Algeria, and lets not forget that late King Hassan II thought that the Algerian crisis was a good experience for the rest of the maghreb.

Reagrds,
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Hmimarmad
0 #5 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Algeria's Bungled Anti terrorism WarHmimarmad 2009-06-26 07:18
During a July 2008 speech Moroccan King made a speech that was considered conciliatory to Algeria. In return below is what the evil doers sponsored by the generals are saying
People needs to understand that the media in Algeria is the Government and so is the majority of the Moroccan media except the one that were asked to disappear or went to jail. if below is not evil, i challenge you to find a better name for it, only evil return good with bad.

Algerian paper Al-Masa said the speech didn’t carry any new provisions for resolving the border issues, instead the paper characterized the Moroccan king's offering as being an offer from a desperate man.

French-speaking Algerian daily Al-Watan said the king's offer was just a means of glossing over the fact that Morocco had publicly blamed Algeria for having a hand in the 1994 hotel attack, and had deported an untold number of Algerians in the previous 14 years.

Algerian Al-Khabar daily used the king's speech to highlight Morocco's alleged criticism over Algeria's support over the Polisario's right to self-determinat ion in the Western Sahara - without mentioning that Algeria funded and armed the pro-Algerian Polisario movement.

Algerian newspapers like Al-Joumhouria wrote that “visiting Wajda (a Moroccan city on the frontiers) makes us think we are in Algeria, for most of the Algerian goods are present on all the shops’ shelves.”

Al-Joumhouria's columnist Souwarit Wassini suggested said that years of smuggling was having disastrous results on the economy. He specifically suggested that Algerian fuel smugglers were operating in Algerian border towns selling thousands of liters of fuel to Moroccan border towns.

Managing editor of Algerian weekly Al-Khabar Al-Ousboui wrote a lengthy report in March about smuggling entitled “The fuel republic and the drugs kingdom.”
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Moulana
0 #6 LahbibMoulana 2009-06-26 09:39
Very interesting indeed !!!

Terrorism is not often what it seems for those who read this blog. It is beyond doubt that “terrorism” often hidden operations maybe performed by groups of individuals, who are manipulated by intelligence services of some states. Today the French press is again accusing Morocco of supporting terrorism of the so-called “Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb.” It is a fact that terrorism and terrorist groups are often manipulated. But it's more difficult to know who makes use of terrorism. However there is an old approach that does not usually fail: who benefits from this terrorism? The group called “Al Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb” the name that the “Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat” (GSPC) receives since January 2007 which came from the “Armed Islamic Group” (GIA). This alleged “Al Qaeda” is a turbulent group which has been manipulated by a state (mainly Morocco) as it has already been reported long ago. Readers could have read an article entitled “Al Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb: a genealogy of lies” (31-XII-2008) reporting the testimony of a terrorist (Abdelhak Layada), the founder of GIA, who confirmed that Hassan II supported attacks in Algeria as a retaliation for the support of this country to the Sahrawi cause. Now that accusation returns back. But it has not been raised by any publication. It has been reported by the French magazine specialized in African politics; close to the interests and ideas of the Quai d'Orsay (the French Foreign Ministry); a magazine close to Morocco and usually offers a “pleasant” image of the country. The magazine is called Jeune Afrique. In the issue 2524 of Jeune Afrique (24-30 May 2009), pages 38-39, includes an article on fighting against terrorism in Mali.
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Freedom
0 #7 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Algeria's Bungled Anti terrorism WarFreedom 2009-06-26 09:45
You are truly a funny guy, with an intellect of a 5 years old, who can not hold a serious debate.
I like the part where you call us " evil doers", come on grow up and show us a higher level of sophistication and stop using your empty slogans.

As for his majesty's call for the re-opening of the borders, i have two points. First, after the criminal terrorist Marrakesh Bombing, Algeria was blamed for it and, all Algerians were chased out of his majesty's kingdom in a very disgresfull way
and a visa was imposed on every person of Algerian origin , even thought Algerians were pumping billions of dollars to the Moroccan economy. As a result of that, Algeria closed the borders. In Algeria we have something called " A Nif" which means dignity, and just like we were spending our money in Morocco we can go and spend it somewhere else.
Second, Algeria wants to resolve all the pending issues between the two countries and the region before talking about the re-opening of the borders. These issues range from border control, drug trafficking, clear demarcation of the borders to the resolution of the WS conflict and many other issues, till then we, Algerians should stay on our side of the border "living in misery" and Moroccan should stay in their paradise on their owen side of the borders.
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Hmimarmad
0 #8 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Algeria's Bungled Anti terrorism WarHmimarmad 2009-06-26 09:49
For our "neighbors" check this one out or at least read the answer to the last question. You could see that everyone in Morocco is rooting for Algeria in the World cup even our cooks and when they are in Algeria, they feel like home.
Hopefully your generals and Mouteflika unclench their fist and let peace and love reign. Hate is not eternal love is.

http://www.el-massa.com/ar/content/view/22594/46/
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bonifas
0 #9 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Algeria's Bungled Anti terrorism Warbonifas 2009-06-26 11:29
Ross was in algeria meeting teflika and his foreign minister but their government news are not saying a thing. strange .


UN’s Western Sahara envoy en route to Morocco
[Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon (right) meets with Christopher Ross, his new Personal Envoy for Western Sahara (file photo)]

Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon (right) meets with Christopher Ross, his new Personal Envoy for Western Sahara (file photo)
26 June 2009 – The Secretary-Gener al’s Personal Envoy trying to help broker a political solution regarding the status Western Sahara is on his way to Morocco, following a visit to Algeria, a spokesperson for the United Nations said today.

Christopher Ross was in Algeria from 23 to 25 June, during which he met with the President of the country, the Foreign Minister and the Secretary of State for African Affairs, UN spokesperson Farhan Haq told reporters in New York.

He added that Mr. Ross is in Nouakchott, Mauritania today, and will travel to the Moroccan capital, Rabat, tomorrow.

Morocco holds that its sovereignty over Western Sahara should be recognized, while the Frente Polisario’s position is that the Territory’s final status should be decided in a referendum that includes independence as an option.

Several rounds of UN-led talks held last year resulted in the parties agreeing to continue negotiations in good faith towards a solution to the issue.

The UN mission, known as MINURSO, tasked with organizing a referendum on self-determinat ion in Western Sahara and monitoring the ceasefire between Morocco and the Frente Polisario has been in place since September 1991.
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Hmimarmad
0 #10 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Algeria's Bungled Anti terrorism WarHmimarmad 2009-06-26 13:57
The evil doers seem to have the same out dated excuse. "remember your dead king and his dead interior minister did this to us and did that to us?"
they also say that our money is spent is Morocco, ignoring that 96 % of Algerian economy is based on oil and most on their revenues are spent on weaponry. When Renault mentioned that it will build the company in Morocco, they could not swallow it. lately, they were holding their breath that Renault will cancel the project, it did not happen, Mr Ghosn the CEO visited Morocco last week to confirm that they are still going on with the project.
They cannot find ONE THING to hold against the post 1999 Morcco, not even one thing so they keep going back to the past.

"Algeria wants to resolve all the pending issues" that's a big fat lie, Morocco has been asking Algeria to do just that and the let the UN deal with the sahara, the evil doers said NO. we need to solve the sahara problem first knowing that Morocco will never relinquish an inch of the sahara.
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Krimo
0 #11 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Algeria's Bungled Anti terrorism WarKrimo 2009-06-26 16:53
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Algerian accusations of Morocco’s involvement in the Algerian violence are careless, nevertheless they must be answered.
Your accusations of the Algerian government of conspiracies are not only baseless but they are careless in a way you haven't thought of yet.
What you're doing without even realizing is pushing those Algerians who so far have made a choice not to interfere in Morocco's business, to take sides. The only side an Algerian will take is the Algerian one of course.
If and when that happens, you will face all of the Algerian media machine, which by the way is roughly four times bigger than yours.
Be careful what you wish for.
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Slawi
0 #12 Bring War Criminals To JusticeSlawi 2009-06-26 20:06
In Algeria the real terrorists are the generals. To stay in power, and to embezzle the gas and oil generated money to their particular accounts in Switzerland and other places, and to divert the attention away from the country's unresolved social problems, the generals managed to control the destiny of the algerian people by installing the country in a climat of fear & resentment.

Habib Souaidia described very well in his book "The Dirty War" how several armed islamists groups were created by the secret services of the algerian army in the weeks that followed the stopping of the electoral process in 1992, these groups had for mission to carry out a large scale massacres against the innocent algerian population.

Algeria is ruled by a bunch of terrorists and war criminals, in my opinion we should held these crooks and blood thirsty animals accountable for their acts, and we should as a civil society work together to bring these war criminals to justice.

Slawi



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Freedom
0 #13 To HmimarmadFreedom 2009-06-27 06:10
Its just amazing the amount of ignorance we can find in your posts:-) Case and point "they also say that our money is spent is Morocco, ignoring that 96 % of Algerian economy is based on oil and most on their revenues are spent on weaponry" So you are saying that since Algerian economy in based on oil, Algerians can not have money?? what are you actually saying? As for Algeria spending most of its wealth on arms, Algeria only spent 3.3% of its GDP on arms compare to Morocco who spent 5% of its GDP on Arms (https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2034rank.html)
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Hmimarmad
0 #14 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Algeria's Bungled Anti terrorism WarHmimarmad 2009-06-27 08:25
it's incredible how the comments here by these Algerians are so similar to their news media. if they that do not rely on the distant past ( Hassan II and lbasri), they threatened us. They are telling us that if you keep criticizing us, it will make thing worst, they want to us to go along because they so superior? Where the superiority here when your dictator is elected by 96%, when you are of the biggest gaz producers on earth and the poverty and misery is so rampant
In Morocco we are no better at least we do not rely on Natural resources to survive. Algeria will need to star thinking about after the gaz and to do that they need to rid themselves of dictators and generals. We are not here to insult Algeria, we love Algeria and we love the Algerian people because we incredibly so similar, we are here to help you and help ourselves. Boumedianne is dead why are you stuck in the past. Let the Sahara to be handled by the UN, stop arming the polisario, stop being the obstacle to peace.
Algerian people deserve better, they paid dearly for their independence, why do you accept what is being done to you by your own generals? We are not asking to revolt we are simply asking to look around you and see that the world is evolving and we are in the 21 st century.
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Freedom
0 #15 To Mr. SlawiFreedom 2009-06-27 08:31
Dear Friend,

First, of all the electoral process you are talking about was interrupted in 1991 and not 1992 and was resumed in 1994 with the Election Of Mr. Liamine Zeroual. Second, Most of the generals you are talking about have Retired from Active duty and have been replaced by the new ones that graduated from the finest military schools from around the world. Second, as for Samraoui, Habib Souaïdia and other deserters they are just a bunch of cowards and traitors, by accusing the Army, which is mainly composed of young Algerians doing their military service, they have only helped the AQIM and before it the GIA in their criminal endeavors, which by the way have admitted to have carried all the atrocities.

Finally, As a Moroccan, i don't really think you have a say in what Algerians can or can not do, just know that at least Algerians have liberated every inch of their land, unlike others.

Regards.
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Krimo
0 #16 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Algeria's Bungled Anti terrorism WarKrimo 2009-06-27 12:29
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In Algeria the real terrorists are the generals. To stay in power, and to embezzle the gas and oil generated money to their particular accounts in Switzerland and other places, and to divert the attention away from the country's unresolved social problems, the generals managed to control the destiny of the Algerian people by installing the country in a climate of fear & resentment.
The only criminals in Algeria are those who sit on their asses waiting for handouts. The government is doing everything in its power to help Algerians help themselves, from interest free loans to subsidized materials, everything a westerner dreams of is there for the taking as long as you're ready to sweat a little bit.
If you want to bring criminals to justice, you should think about your majesty who shamelessly added over a billion dollars to his fortunate in this economic climate, the only one out of 15 royals to have done so. That's what I call crime.
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Hmimarmad
0 #17 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Algeria's Bungled Anti terrorism WarHmimarmad 2009-06-27 17:16
To the evil doers,

from the same the site you sent :

The hydrocarbons sector is the backbone of the economy, accounting for roughly 60% of budget revenues, 30% of GDP, and over 95% of export earnings.
The generals will have nothing to export when no one want you gaz, Algeria will be in a big hole , rid algeria of mouteflika if you care about algeria.

Algeria GDP: $235.5 billion (2008 est.)
Moroco' s GDP; $137.3 billion (2008 est.)

meaning that the generals spend twice as much on weaponry.
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Slawi
0 #18 To Freedom & KrimoSlawi 2009-06-27 21:04
To Freedom,

I know what I'm talking about, 1992 is the year the Algerian Junta made a military coup to overturn the results of the election held in 1991. It happened exactly on January 11, 1992. Since that date the generals you're defending perperated a genocide against the Algerian population, for many years your generals instructed their subordinate to conduct massacres in large scale like the ones in Bentalha, Raiss, Sidi-Youssef... .etc....these massacres are well documented, and I believe that the perperators should be held responsible for their actions and brought to justice. This is not only a crime against Algerians but also a crime against humanity.

In Algeria the generals retire just to better pull the strings behind the scenes, like General Mohamed Mediene Alias Toufik considered as the leading power behind the scene and the commander in chief of the eradicationist faction of the army.

In regards to Mr. Habib Souaïdia, Mohamed Samraoui, Allili Messaoud, Med Larbi Zitout...etc... these people have my respect and the reason is they refused to be part of the genocide and also they're brave and courageous when they stood against the barbaric regime of Algiers.

To Krimo,

You ridiculized yourself when you wrote: "The government is doing everything in its power to help Algerians help themselves, from interest free loans to subsidized materials, everything a westerner dreams of is there for the taking as long as you're ready to sweat a little bit." We're not dumb, we live in a small village called planet earth, we live in the era of the internet, the era of youtube, dailymotion, twitter, facebook.... so on and so forth. We know what's going on in Algeria in a daily basis. If there is any credibility in what you're saying, could you please tell us why the youth in Algeria are taking the death boats to regain the other side of the mediteranean sea? Why people are spending nights outside of the western consulates to get visas? why the Algeria's estimated unemployment rate was higher than 12% last year according to officials figure, although independant estimates put the rate closer to 20%? can you explain to me and to the the audience how a presidential candidate in 2009 can get more than 90% of the votes cast. Here are a few questions I'll be happy to hear responses from you.

The difference between you and me Mr. Krimo is that I'm an independent thinker and blogger, I'm not on the payroll of anyone or any regime. Unlike you, you're a voice of propaganda for the Algerian regime aimed at serving an agenda and to convey false informations. The subject today is "Algerian allegation of Morocco’s support of violent Armed Groups", not his majesty. And believe me my friend, If I have to criticize his majesty I will, like I did in the past.

Slawi



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boras
0 #19 Algerian inferiority complex rears it's ugly head againboras 2009-06-27 22:43
I think many readers will be struck how all the algerian posts seem to gloss over the FACT that many of these so called Islamic extremist groups were created by the same algerian mafia generals to deliberately create a security situation thus strengthening their power bases. So for them to come here and make false accusations by claiming Morocco supported the violence in Algeria is ridiculous and shows the world the kind of people they are - ungrateful and very bitter indeed.

The King of Morocco has made several gestures of peace one being the opening of land borders and Algerian Mafia reacted with distasteful arrogance and rudeness. This act alone would have encouraged greater economic interaction for both countries thus benefiting both economies The algerian Mafia clearly have a chip on their shoulder it's symptomatic of an inferiority complex stemming from the fact that although Morocco has limited natural resources Morocco has been far more successful in using them and ultimately providing a safe and secure environment for its citizens which is something the Algerian regime have yet to achieve and this really bugs them.
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Hmimarmad
0 #20 Algeria-MoroccoHmimarmad 2009-06-28 03:32
We keep going at each other trying to see who’s going to be more convincing shaming the other. There will be no winner in this ping pong game. We both have major flaws in our system of governing, the unfortunate Moroccan and Algerians and with no fault of their own are not being helped by us trying to fault each other, our disaccord only serve those who are running the show at the expense of our future and the future generations to come. For as long as we are busy trying to butcher each other psychologically , we are giving them more time to use and abuse their powers, when this power is supposedly meant to serve the Algerian and Moroccan citizen.

As of now, we are helpless but we do have a chance to shake things up if we can unite our thoughts for the common good of both people. We are not asking for violent rebellion, stone throwing, or burning cars, we are simply asking to reconcile our differences and strengthen our many similarities. We need to find a way to sit across from each other at the same table and talk things out. We might not agree on everything in the beginning but will certainly agree on a lot of things such as we are no different one from the other; we both agree that it is high time for our people to prosper.

Many Algerians are very fond of Bouteflika and the same holds true for the Moroccans and the king. There is nothing more empowering to these two gentlemen if we help them help us. They need to know that it is time to dedicate our energies to unite our nations, and that we need work to approach our views, they also need to know that the the status quo is helping no one but their subordinates, and the majority of our two people are desperate to move on to a better future.

Lastly, I do want to apologize if I offended my Algerians brothers and sisters with some of the wording I used in previous posts. It would be dubious of me to ask for a change when the change has is not coming from within first. I'll try to use a better wording.

Sincerely.

Hmimarmad
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El Younsi Mohamed
0 #21 Wake up guys!El Younsi Mohamed 2009-06-28 04:01
Guys, for how long this “stupid tragedy” will keep going on? Don’t you realize that it is an empty circle? We know each other very well; this is nothing new, why you keep adding insults to injuries! Whether you defend the politics of the government of Algeria, or you reflect your own views, nothing will change! Just remember, the absolute majority of our people do not know how to read, write, or even understand their own dialect, never mind English! So, your ideas, views or whatever, will stay extremely limited!
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Freedom
0 #22 To Boras and SlawiFreedom 2009-06-28 08:19
What i am not getting dear friends is that you guys keep portraying Algerians as a bunch of poor imbeciles with no education that have a inferiority complex toward Moroccan right? The question is, why is it that The Moroccan Government at all levels is almost Begging for the reopening of the borders, i just don't get it, you obviously do not need us right? So give me a break, let us live in our misery while you guys can enjoy your heaven on earth. We are only asking for one thing and only one thing, we want you please if you would to secure the borders because we are tired of the drugs, arms and many other bad things that are passing through your borders.

As for your arguments regarding our elections, leaders, or political system, i have 4 words for you guys "Mind your own business" if you were Algerians i would have tried to convince you, but obviously you are not. Again, we have no lesson to receive from nobody and if we, Algerians, have a problem, trust me we will resolve it sooner or later so you guys can back off.
One more thing if you guys are fans of Samraoui, Habib Souaïdia, haddam, Kebir ...Etc. you should invite them to your country and let them implement their ideology. Finally, I do have a great deal of respect to the Moroccan people and their leaders but come on guys, you should try to reform your own system before worrying about us:-)
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El Younsi Mohamed
0 #23 Good start!El Younsi Mohamed 2009-06-28 11:44
Good start! Hope our brothers on the other side of the fence will do the same!
Thank you
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Hmimarmad
0 #24 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Algeria's Bungled Anti terrorism WarHmimarmad 2009-06-28 13:36
This one goes to my Moroccan brothers and sisters,
I think that pointing Algeria's flaws are helping no one. We have been doing it for decades with no results to show for whatsoever. We need to be the one who have the courage to stop the ping pong game and come up with an alternative. We are beating a dead horse, our brothers and sisters from the east do not want us to " interfere" in their way of living, they do not want us to tell them who their masters should be.
They have heard it all from us and we have heard it all from them. IT IS SIMPLY NOT WORKING. If we try since 1999 to tell our neighbor that we mean good but your neighbor still does not dig it, then we have to change course.
There are those who like nothing more than seeing us hitting at each other back in forth. Algerians know who are their masters, They know who run their life? They know that 90% vote for Bouteflika is something will not inscribe them in the democracy club. I think we should let Algeria be Algeria and our government should start thinking of better ways to improve and reestablish our relations.
If you want to open the borders, you have to do it sitting across a table not in the news media, if you want to remove the visa requirements for Algerians as it was done, You do it through the diplomatic channels. Morocco has been extending its hand to the Algerians via Maghreb Arabe Presse (MAP), that is not something the masters in Algeria appreciate, they see it as scoring points to look good to the western world.
I actually agree with with the Algerians in that one, If the Moroccans want to show their sincerity then they have to do in a way that works for the Algerians as well, if it's behinds closed doors so be it. Morocco should only use ways that will please the masters of Algeria. This is not a weakness on our part, it is being more intelligent, As they say "we have to be the better man", if this does not work, let's try something else, we have to be resilient in searching peace and harmony of our two nations. Nothing hurts like seeing European countries using our differences to score business deals. Shame on us to let this going on, we need to put a stop to this nonsense because our two people deserve more than what is getting.
Sincerly,
Hmimarmad.
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Hmimarmad
0 #25 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Algeria's Bungled Anti terrorism WarHmimarmad 2009-06-28 16:04
A headline for APS
Un député allemand déplore que la mission de la Minurso ne soit pas élargie à un monitoring sur les droits de l'homme

Headline from MAP
Autonomy, 'privileged solution' to settle Sahara issue, Rev. Richard Cizik

My question what would and American reverend and a German deputy make a statement favoring one site over the other?
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Bamako
0 #26 Latest weekly Algerian headlines from Algerian Press Service (APS)Bamako 2009-06-29 05:11
For all of you to decide:

Le ministre sahraoui de la Défense dénonce "l'escalade militaire" marocaine au Sahara occidental

Le Comité spécial des 24 appelle à la décolonisation du Sahara occidental

Le Conseil des ministres sahraoui dénonce la répression marocaine dans les territoires occupés

Droits de l'homme au Sahara occidental: la communauté internationale appelée à faire pression sur le Maroc

Karin Scheele: le conflit du Sahara occidental ne doit pas être laissé "dans l'oubli"

Les détenus politiques sahraouis, symboles de la résistance pacifique dans les territoires occupés

Sahara occidental: l'intégration de la question des droits de l'homme dans la mission de la Minurso, une necessité
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Yousseff
0 #27 Stop playing with people's fateYousseff 2009-06-29 12:08
I can't help but notice that Morocco has been all over the media map talking about Algeria. It worries me whenever i see propaganda such as this because it tells me to expect something along the road.
-Are they preparing for war?
-Are they provoking one?
-Are they manipulating public opinion?
-Do t hey have something to hide?

This is not the way mature diplomacy works; it is not responsible to put people's fate in the circus of media to the point where it's becoming entertainment. One day, one of those generals will snap and then Morocco will be put to the test. Regardless what nation state wins, the POEPLE always lose!
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omar al khayam
0 #28 COMMENT_TITLE_R E Algeria's Bungled Anti terrorism Waromar al khayam 2009-06-30 12:18
My answer to the dumbest questions ever asked, questions that do not do justice to our fellow Algerians and only make them sound dumb and dumber

Are they preparing for war?
Yes
-Are they provoking one?
Yes
-Are they manipulating public opinion?
Yes
-Do t hey have something to hide?
Yes
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